Okay, okay, okay, fine. I'll bite. Question about Red.

[Adolphus]

For me, the main problems with Red are:

1. Not enough people playing . . . so many dead zones
2. 1 guild on server dominates everything

I started a new character on Red and was surprised how good the community has been. Haven't been PK'd once at low levels and had a nice druid port me to a better location. I've been unable to make lasting friends etc though, because there's hardly anyone playing in my level range. It's just a population issue mainly. Be fun if people I knew played. As of right now I just can't get myself to log in.

[Lagaidh]

Actually I wasn't as bored with blue per se, I think I glommed onto that notion from another poster. The forums, over time, had given me pause to think about my old assumptions when some stalwart blue folks decided to test PvP.

That made me curious enough that I decided I'd have a look. Must be somethin' to it right? Bob's there. I truly see the other side of the coin now, whereas before, I thought it was solely about e-peen. So hell, my stint on red moved my knowledge and that's a good thing.

I'm sure I'll log on time to time and give the odd caster a target that can get to the zone instead of provide a low, medium or high quality dwarf pelt for the effort.

I'll be like the sympathy-fuck date on which to practice.

[iruinedyourday]

all u guys have to say to get people to go to red is swish..

swish is on the red server.

nuff said.

[webrunner5]

One thing I will give playing on Red is, and god knows I am no fan of Red, is you had better be good at playing your class or you die a lot. So it does make you understand your class better. Not a bad thing for sure. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Zalaerian]

A lot of the guys who came from blue got their VP keys in the last 2 weeks. Not even 60 yet and they are being showered w VP pixels

[Supaskillz]

Originally Posted by Zalaerian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of the guys who came from blue got their VP keys in the last 2 weeks. Not even 60 yet and they are being showered w VP pixels

*Yawn*. Nihil swelling their numbers. Need some war for dragons

[Adolphus]

Originally Posted by Zalaerian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of the guys who came from blue got their VP keys in the last 2 weeks. Not even 60 yet and they are being showered w VP pixels

I think this is a fundamental problem with Red, actually. Having only one competitive guild on the server makes it feel actually less challenging than Blue. PVP is one aspect of Red, but PVE is still there as well and a big draw to people wanting more challenging content. If I wanted PVP only I'd play Call of Duty, not EQ Red . . .

So yeah . . . soon as players join the only competitive guild on Red they are instantly granted all end game content? They don't even have to get to 60 or make any effort at all? I wouldn't be advertising this so openly if I were you. The whole reason I tried out Red was to see if I could be challenged a bit more, not less.

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Adolphus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this is a fundamental problem with Red, actually. Having only one competitive guild on the server makes it feel actually less challenging than Blue. PVP is one aspect of Red, but PVE is still there as well and a big draw to people wanting more challenging content. If I wanted PVP only I'd play Call of Duty, not EQ Red . . .

So yeah . . . soon as players join the only competitive guild on Red they are instantly granted all end game content? They don't even have to get to 60 or make any effort at all? I wouldn't be advertising this so openly if I were you. The whole reason I tried out Red was to see if I could be challenged a bit more, not less.

With all due respect...there is nothing difficult about Blue's FTE Jav Spam raiding.

I do enjoy the raids that we get attacked on a lot more however. Even the raids that are not contested still will have some pvp. Either clearing out people between us and the target or dealing with people trying to take out our stragglers.

Red is vastly more entertaining than Blue high end. No waiting list for camps so you can farm what you want when you want. Don't have to fte poop sock for targets, if its contested you fight for the merb, if not you kill it and move on to the next. And if you are bored and max level you can actually do something besides roll an alt or farm for cash...go hunt people.

Also, getting a VP key on red isn't exactly zero effort. PS and RS are two of the hottest pvp spots outside of KC, you will be constantly hunted while trying to camp those stupidly rare spawns.

[Adolphus]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With all due respect...there is nothing difficult about Blue's FTE Jav Spam raiding.

I do enjoy the raids that we get attacked on a lot more however. Even the raids that are not contested still will have some pvp. Either clearing out people between us and the target or dealing with people trying to take out our stragglers.

Red is vastly more entertaining than Blue high end. No waiting list for camps so you can farm what you want when you want. Don't have to fte poop sock for targets, if its contested you fight for the merb, if not you kill it and move on to the next. And if you are bored and max level you can actually do something besides roll an alt or farm for cash...go hunt people.

Also, getting a VP key on red isn't exactly zero effort. PS and RS are two of the hottest pvp spots outside of KC, you will be constantly hunted while trying to camp those stupidly rare spawns.

Thanks for the due respect. I never said blue was a very challenging server . . . the reason I've been trying Red is because I seek more challenge.

While Blue may not be very challenging regarding normal camps, you have to admit that it's still far more challenging in Raids and end game. You can't possibly argue that Red, with only 1 guild dominating all raid content with no competition, is comparable to Blue, which has many capable guilds competing for content. Even with the rotation in place, it's a sad comparison.

Regardless of all that, my main point originally was that Red players probably shouldn't be advertising how "easy" Red is on the Blue forum. That was all I was saying. It's not going to persuade anyone to come over.

[Pudge]

Originally Posted by Adolphus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this is a fundamental problem with Red, actually. Having only one competitive guild on the server makes it feel actually less challenging than Blue. PVP is one aspect of Red, but PVE is still there as well and a big draw to people wanting more challenging content. If I wanted PVP only I'd play Call of Duty, not EQ Red . . .

So yeah . . . soon as players join the only competitive guild on Red they are instantly granted all end game content? They don't even have to get to 60 or make any effort at all? I wouldn't be advertising this so openly if I were you. The whole reason I tried out Red was to see if I could be challenged a bit more, not less.

Yep. It really shits up the server when everybody is in the same guild. This is why they are called the bluebie zerg of the box. And I will never join them because I prefer to he a part of the solution and not the problem. But it seems like only 20% of the server feel this way. Some ppl got 0 dignity. Apparently they congregate at R99.