Didn't Derubael and other GM's agree something was needed for end game?

[Quiet]

When VI made the game I don't think they had any of this in mind. I read somewhere they didn't even have PVP in mind but implemented it anyways which is why it was never balanced. The game is 15 years old. If it can be simplified in to 2 simple days. Much preferred. If you cant get people to log in during those 2 days, you wont be getting pixels. Adding more spawns just going to add to number of Pixels Nihilum gets.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Quiet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When VI made the game I don't think they had any of this in mind. I read somewhere they didn't even have PVP in mind but implemented it anyways which is why it was never balanced.

They made lots of PvP changes and opened more PvP servers.

BOTB titles were decided by PvP.

Pretty sure its something they "considered".

But I think you are just repeating something someone else said.

RZ PvP had item loot and an anti-PK/PK atmosphere with different guilds at war and quadruple this population.

[Gaanon]

I love how everyone turns it into a Nihi/Az thing because they're all so bitter, Azrael is irrelevant, if others could do it I imagine they would have.

No one stays and competes here, no one, not one, what does it matter if Lite is an asshole and lazy lawl.

[heartbrand]

Let this sink in for a second. You had a HUGE influx of new players, Azrael was the TOP GUILD ont he box getting 99% of all mobs, and you guys STILL couldnt get anyone.

[Gaanon]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let this sink in for a second. You had a HUGE influx of new players, Azrael was the TOP GUILD ont he box getting 99% of all mobs, and you guys STILL couldnt get anyone.

I don't care, why isn't there other options, even one, you're tunnel visioning your rage at Azrael, I think bigger.

[Genedin]

Originally Posted by Gaanon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't care, why isn't there other options, even one, you're tunnel visioning your rage at Azrael, I think bigger.

There was another option. Red Dawn. Was thriving.

GM's turn off exp bonus. Red Dawn was 90% people trying to exp up and get gear.
Many of guild's Lvl 60's banned for 2 weeks from Sektor.

You should have seen the message boards. Was an exile of people just leaving the server because it was almost as if GM's wanted RD to die.

[Genedin]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let this sink in for a second. You had a HUGE influx of new players, Azrael was the TOP GUILD ont he box getting 99% of all mobs, and you guys STILL couldnt get anyone.

Not true.

They did get some people, but then they decided these new people needed to get lvl 60, resist gear, and vp keys on their own while they run around and kill Nihilum newbs in KC before they could join the "elite unit." And then these new people left.

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by Genedin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not true.

They did get some people, but then they decided these new people needed to get lvl 60, resist gear, and vp keys on their own while they run around and kill Nihilum newbs in KC before they could join the "elite unit." And then these new people left.

I'm not this is the whole story, but it isn't a lie.

[Zalaerian]

Uhh TZ was the same. PDM mass recruited in the beginning. Darkoan and jerris? Formed disconatiom. EQ has always been bring numbers. The simplexity of the lets you get warm bodies to push buttons in the right order

[Gaanon]

Originally Posted by Zalaerian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhh TZ was the same. PDM mass recruited in the beginning. Darkoan and jerris? Formed disconatiom. EQ has always been bring numbers. The simplexity of the lets you get warm bodies to push buttons in the right order

Darkoan was SOTG/Indignation, what? I was part of Sedition when we made Disco Darkoan or his ranger weren't a part of it.