Why does Class C

[Velerin]

All I've seen since the new raid rules is more people having fun, enjoying classic eq, and population has been up. Dragons live for longer than 30 seconds (sometimes). Don't have to sell your soul to the TMO war machine to even see a dragon.

[khanable]

Danth 100% incorrect

Frieza 100% correct

[khanable]

Okay

Danth 50% correct

The main effects of the class system seem to have been to a) prevent most guilds from working with each other or significantly helping each other, and b) to cause the second-tier guilds to start disliking and distrusting each other instead of focusing all of their hate solely on TMO.

Is just untrue

Lots of R guilds help each other and if anything we're extremely active in talking to each other and consider each other allies (more or less)

I don't know what happens in class C so I can't really comment on your accuracy of competition in class C. I just know R is a bunch of butt buddies.

[Kekephee]

Sometimes it's fun to play basketball with your friends and make fun of them for missing shots or not being fast enough. Shittalking can be great. But the thing is it's a lot more fun for the guy who's doing the shittalking, and when the other guy is average height or maybe a little short so it's always the tall guy coming out on top, it starts to not be so fun. In this case, height is a metaphor for being able to sit at your computer for a longer period of time to level more alts to camp at raid spots, to sit in Trak's lair for a week waiting for him to appear, and all the other shit that was the crux of pre-rotation raiding. Some of us love the occasional back-and-forth, fuck you BDA you're a bunch of babies no fuck you TMO you're a bunch nerds no fuck YOU IB you're just a lot of mean guys. Some of us think that shit is fun- sometimes. But there are a lot of people on this server who don't think it's so fun. Some people just want to kill a dragon once every week or so just to kill the dragon. This necessitates the existence of two classes of guild- the people who are always in the shittalking, competitive, looks like you bunch of fucks missed the trak spawn again lol kind of game, and the people who take it slower and don't feel the need to be better than anyone except maybe the other bards in my guild who all have more pieces of Ragefire shit than me, you fucks

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sometimes it's fun to play basketball with your friends and make fun of them for missing shots or not being fast enough. Shittalking can be great. But the thing is it's a lot more fun for the guy who's doing the shittalking, and when the other guy is average height or maybe a little short so it's always the tall guy coming out on top, it starts to not be so fun. In this case, height is a metaphor for being able to sit at your computer for a longer period of time to level more alts to camp at raid spots, to sit in Trak's lair for a week waiting for him to appear, and all the other shit that was the crux of pre-rotation raiding. Some of us love the occasional back-and-forth, fuck you BDA you're a bunch of babies no fuck you TMO you're a bunch nerds no fuck YOU IB you're just a lot of mean guys. Some of us think that shit is fun- sometimes. But there are a lot of people on this server who don't think it's so fun. Some people just want to kill a dragon once every week or so just to kill the dragon. This necessitates the existence of two classes of guild- the people who are always in the shittalking, competitive, looks like you bunch of fucks missed the trak spawn again lol kind of game, and the people who take it slower and don't feel the need to be better than anyone except maybe the other bards in my guild who all have more pieces of Ragefire shit than me, you fucks

The crux of pre-class assigned raiding was the size of variance and extended variance. There were other changes made besides the variance reduction but variance was the big stopping point for guilds not TMO,FE or IB before the changes. Other guilds simply did not have the people that could or would track mobs that long. Any guild (even a small guild with quality players) can rotate tracking a target between there guild for the short windows now.

It has been pretty surprising to me that more guilds haven't went for certain FFA targets because of these short windows. It's really quite easy and a lot of times takes less than 8 hours of actual tracking before these mobs spawn. It was the single biggest change made to the raiding environment outside of VP(Yes even bigger than giving Class-R vending machine loot basically with class assignments on mobs). Inside of VP removing no gm involvement made the biggest change.

[captnamazing]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sometimes it's fun to play[...]with your friends[...]coming[...]

Some of us love the occasional[...]fuck[...]

babies[...]think that shit is fun[...]

like you bunch of fucks[...]feel the need to be better than[...]the other bards in my guild who all have more pieces of Ragefire shit than me, you fucks

putting my Engrish degree to work

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by captnamazing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

putting my Engrish degree to work

don't need the brackets because the ellipsis was enough, but in order to stagger a potential meter, you could have used dashes.

[Xerxes]

shinko+no rules=bad

[Jfertal]

Originally Posted by Xerxes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

shinko+no rules=bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFwXmz1KGoQ&hd=1

for you highlander.

[Skywarp]

After reading this menstrual dribble....you crying little pussies evade the smallest detail in this pixeljerk fest. Greed. You whine cause its not way. Greedy little cry babies from the bottom to the top. Doesn't even matter what tag. I've seen every tag from harmony to tmo jerking themselves off lately for experience and loot especially in that gloryhole chardok for example. Good job fucking each over for a profit. The real irony is you blame each other but your all doing the same thing but on various levels of ass fuckery.