ninja looting or no?

[Laugher]

[insert red plug-use of the terms other server toxic, camps are free, xp bonus]

I don't ever rule lawyer but I think it may be worthwhile to mention here this snippet from the stickied PnP at the top of these forums.

I am not a member of BDA, but this argument seems redundant given the PnP and the ruling Derubael made. Allow me to elaborate.

To nail this point into the ground further:

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Note: A "group" in this case is defined as a party of one or more characters that are united in a common belief or goal and are capable of completing that goal.

Project 1999 Staff will not be defining what constitutes a camp. Instead, Project 1999 Customer Service Staff will arbitrate spawn disputes on a per-case-basis. We greatly encourage players to find their own resolution to spawn disputes, as the solution provided by the staff will at best be a win-lose situation, and possbily a lose-lose situation. No two decisions, even at the same 'camp', are guaranteed to be the same, as we will take into account multiple factors in making a determination on a 'camp'.

That being said, you can absolutely "camp" mobs, and you cannot steal another players 'camp'.

other ench didn't have a group there before BDA was my understanding, could not take the spawn by themselves, therefore when BDA showed up and could take it before other ench's group.. it became their camp then. By this ruling they were the group camping the mob.

by CSR intervention the deletion of the items from said ench should tell you that BDA was found in the right and ninja looting (at least in this situation by an unintended recipient of the loot ) was found to be in the wrong by CSR.

Am I missing something here? Was the other group there, was this ench able to solo a level 60 Verina Tomb?

*edit* woops wrong thread.. as for AC that is certainly a case-by-case scenario haha.

[jaybone]

Originally Posted by mefdinkins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

are you inferring that BDA is not nice?

This is not RNF please remove your hate speech from server chat.

Are you saying all "not nice" players should be banned?

Additionally, would calling an entire guild "not nice" be not nice?

Are you saying you should be banned?

I agree - please ban Sylexis.

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[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Supaskillz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Basically people should just assume don't loot shit you didn't kill. I would think that this sort of respect for others would be assumed for most people.

If you really think it is going to rot and the people who killed it are no where to be found I would wait at the corpse until it's about 10 seconds from rotting before you loot it. If the people who killed it are around and you think it might rot, use your words and confirm.

And then I pop my invis and make sure you get banned. You have taken my bait mortal!!!!

[SyanideGas]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't argue about Chest being a drama monger


Because he'll GUILDREMOVE ME AND ORDER ALL BDA TO SEVER TIES FOREVER FOR USING HIS NAME

You can't use the lords name in vain bro

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for your opinion. It's wrong though. You don't.

What are you basing that on?

[Cecily]

What are you basing yours on? It's absolutely ninjalooting. If you see something desirable rotting on the ground and take it without the permission of the person / group / raid that killed it, and they have a problem with that... you're a ninja looter. Their current presence in zone does not change the fact that you have no rights to the kill.

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are you basing yours on? It's absolutely ninjalooting. If you see something desirable rotting on the ground and take it without the permission of the person / group / raid that killed it, and they have a problem with that... you're a ninja looter.

Oh, the way you came in and told me I was wrong I thought you must have had some actual backing. But you are just offering your opinion, as I was. OK, so noted.

Plus, you may not be aware of the actual discussion, pre derail...it was about somebody who actually logs all the way off for an alt to get the piece. We were not originally talking about the ninja loot thread issue. If someone comes along and sees a dead critter with no-one around, and he checks it and loots a valuable piece, is that ninja looting? This was the original question. In my opinion, as I said, you lose loot rights when you log off.

[Cecily]

I know what I'm talking about most of the time. I have no desire to research the incident where someone ninjaed a Verix medallion at KC zone in while the person who killed was switching characters. I really would love to you put your theory to test though. Snag someone's AC ring sometime.

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Plus, you may not be aware of the actual discussion, pre derail...it was about somebody who actually logs all the way off for an alt to get the piece. We were not originally talking about the ninja loot thread issue.

That's exactly what I'm discussing, not the white knights' Verina kill.

[fadetree]

I'm not asking you to. You felt like you should tell me I'm wrong. Ok, your opinion noted. Unless someone gives sufficient shits to research it, there we stand.

[lecompte]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

.... you talk about things if you're going to cast aspersions on guilds and talk shit.

Aspersions is a good word.

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really would love to you put your theory to test though. Snag someone's AC ring sometime.

SHOTS FIRED. Me thinks Cecily is bored at work and needs to get some forum action going to amuse.