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Old 05-11-2014, 07:11 AM
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See invis should see thru hide/sneak. They always did.
See invis saw through low level hide/sneak, not Rogue hide/sneak at higher levels.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:20 PM
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See invis saw through low level hide/sneak, not Rogue hide/sneak at higher levels.
I am pretty sure lvls do not impact what can see through hide. Maybe impacts the aggro radius which sneak also impacts even of mobs which can see.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:48 PM
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See invis saw through low level hide/sneak, not Rogue hide/sneak at higher levels.


see invis always saw thru hide/sneak

always

the only thing that levels affected was the the agro radius of mobs due to sneak
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:36 PM
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I recall see invis monsters seeing through Wood Elf "Hide" but not seeing through a high-level Rogue "Hide". So...dunno. These skills all have a ranking, though. Having 50 in Hide vs. having the max cap in Hide probably means something more than just the chance it has of working initially.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:10 PM
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PCs with see invis saw through hide.

Mobs that could see through regular invis could not necessarily see through hide.

Have you looked at any of the evidence posted?
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:15 PM
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If you want to post counter evidence, feel free. Otherwise, there is ample evidence posted that what you state is not the case.

Hide is a class defining ability for rogues. It is not the same as other classes/races hide.

Other classes/races hide could be seen through by see invis/undead.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:17 PM
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Rogues were commonly used in Velious for dragging corpses around in Kael. Why wouldn't they just use a Necro with gather shadows?
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:32 PM
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One of the flags for mobs used to be "See Hide/Sneak" - Evil Eyes for instance had it.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:18 PM
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Having 50 in Hide vs. having the max cap in Hide probably means something more than just the chance it has of working initially.
No, it doesn't.
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Old 05-13-2014, 08:23 PM
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No, it doesn't.
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Seems as though people with no experience keep speculating. Please keep it to cold, hard evidence.

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