A Plea to the Staff of Project 1999

[Xzerion]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of Course!!!

Thats why the GMs have acted so fast to take care of it..OMG!

Wait a min..maybe the GMs have acted and have recognized that it was not an exploit!

/GASP!

Don't fool yourself

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not trying to cause a issue, but some people bringing up the Phinny encounter with Tibador+Allizia and others bringing up the whole Reiker deal seems like *somewhat* close to the same deal.

While I agree that the offenses are somewhat similar, there are two VERY important distinctions between the two situations.

One one hand you have Reiker. Reiker is a jackass. A very smart, very shrewd jackass. Reiker was a player on p1999 when he cheated. Reiker was caught and banned, and then unbanned due to the "letting the terrorists win" actions when they unbanned everyone.

Reiker was found to be cheating on MUCH less evidence that we have provided and banned immediately.

On the other hand, you have Tibador. Tibador is a GM. A very sloppy, very uncoordinated GM. Tibador was a GM when he cheated. Tibador was caught and admitted wrongdoing, but so far nothing has been done.

On the other hand, you have Allizia. Allizia is the guildleader of the guild which the GM's are so concerned about being fair with. Allizia was a guildleader when he cheated. Allizia was caught and admitted wrongdoing, but so far nothing has been done.

Tibador and Allizia are in positions of power. People in positions of power who abuse this power to break rules should be punished in a harsher way that normal people who break rules. YET NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE. Reiker was a player. HE WAS BANNED INSTANTLY.

You really don't see the issue here?

[Hasbinbad]

So another bugged vox killed by Trans. Great work here guys. Way to be on the ball.

Can you do something now?
Do we need to get you more videos?

[Reiker]

I can't even sleep without Trans exploiting raids. Think I gotta hand over my fraps cam before I go to bed.

Whoever said I used MQ to warp, fuck you. I've never used any hard hacks on any emu server ever. I had MQ loaded well over 2 months before IB was even a guild and the worst things I did were invite someone to my group who wasn't near me and /target a mob through a wall to lull. Big fucking deal. I've apologized and admitted my wrongdoings 10,000 times over, had an extremely difficult app process to IB and I'm still getting persecuted, which I expect. I also expect you to give the same scrutiny to your leadership who have so far OK'ed exploiting at least 2 Phinnies, 2 Voxes, and 1 Mayong Mistmoore. I'm sure once you get to Fear and realize you have no chance of killing Cazic Thule, all of his abilities will be removed as well. Cheating is being rewarded on Project 1999 and if any of you were in our shoes you'd be just as frustrated.

[Bigcountry23]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cheating is being rewarded on Project 1999 and if any of you were in our shoes you'd be just as frustrated.

Yep, only one solution.

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[Taluvill]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While I agree that the offenses are somewhat similar, there are two VERY important distinctions between the two situations.

One one hand you have Reiker. Reiker is a jackass. A very smart, very shrewd jackass. Reiker was a player on p1999 when he cheated. Reiker was caught and banned, and then unbanned due to the "letting the terrorists win" actions when they unbanned everyone.

Reiker was found to be cheating on MUCH less evidence that we have provided and banned immediately.

On the other hand, you have Tibador. Tibador is a GM. A very sloppy, very uncoordinated GM. Tibador was a GM when he cheated. Tibador was caught and admitted wrongdoing, but so far nothing has been done.

On the other hand, you have Allizia. Allizia is the guildleader of the guild which the GM's are so concerned about being fair with. Allizia was a guildleader when he cheated. Allizia was caught and admitted wrongdoing, but so far nothing has been done.

Tibador and Allizia are in positions of power. People in positions of power who abuse this power to break rules should be punished in a harsher way that normal people who break rules. YET NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE. Reiker was a player. HE WAS BANNED INSTANTLY.

You really don't see the issue here?

alright, the only part of this i have an issue with is this:

A very sloppy, very uncoordinated GM.

I guess this isn't exactly an "attack" at someone, but you knew what was happening and when was meant when you said it, and i can't just sit back and watch someone bitch and complain about the guild leader.

I hate to bring this up, but Did you guys give back the loot for the first naggy kill when you had the hacked characters with you? I dont think you did, may be wrong though. I'm pretty positive we would give the loot back from the kills where we had any issues with, Phinny and Vox included(although don't let me speak for the guild...), seems close to the same situation, but with different technicalities obviously.

And Vox is supposed to be 6pm central tonight, So idk if they killed it, but i'll have to get on and see.




About the Reiker and Tib/Allizia thing, Yes, IMHO its the same situation. Yes he was cheating. Yes, Tib and Allizia Exploit pulled. Big fucking whoop. Does that mean that any encounter with reiker or group with reiker should have experience/loot gained revoked? No. Is the loot for phinny going to get revoked? most likely no.

Both situations were wrong, and all that i'm saying is that people keep dragging both situations up because its one of the few provable greivances we have with each other. We both know other things happened, just don't *always* have proof.

hehe Im just saying lets stop our fighting and complaining bullshit.

PS: go read Hasbinbads post on the idea for spawns, looks pretty tight. His idea (with my obvious modifications hehe) is my Number one, and Bubbles idea is my Number 2. Fun stuff tbh = D

[Zarniwooop]

Originally Posted by Wonton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First to engage is what has worked over MANY servers for MANY years. Other than selfishness and immaturity their is no reason to protest a first to engage.

Flat out wrong.

[Taluvill]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and 1 Mayong Mistmoore.

BTW, Technically its the same MM that you guys got loot from too, so its tough to bring that one up, whether you were testing or not.

Blame Secrets for the wrong repop on that one.

[Penoy]

Originally Posted by Otto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To the GM Staff of Project 1999:

I don't understand why the rotation was such a priority. We had shown good faith when we dealt with Lady Vox during the DDOS. On the other hand, there has been documented proof presented of Allizia and Tibador exploiting after specifically being warned about the Phinny pull. Then, on top of that, not fixing an obviously broken Vox before they downed her.

Both guilds have cheaters/exploiters... Like i said before IB had a charmed Amgydalia Knight or however you spell it, that was Harmtouching every 2 seconds, and was going around killing mobs. That is very well an exploit, but we still used it. I know that some players in IB have used hacks IE Tirooph, was using speed hacks...... but Otto... i seen you kill yourself down from 48 to like 42.... just to do gnomes...and get rezzes when finished, as well as using poisons that were too strong...not sure if thats an exploit.

[Zexa]

Originally Posted by Penoy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Both guilds have cheaters/exploiters... Like i said before IB had a charmed Amgydalia Knight or however you spell it, that was Harmtouching every 2 seconds, and was going around killing mobs. That is very well an exploit, but we still used it. I know that some players in IB have used hacks IE Tirooph, was using speed hacks...... but Otto... i seen you kill yourself down from 48 to like 42.... just to do gnomes...and get rezzes when finished, as well as using poisons that were too strong...not sure if thats an exploit.

Tirooph was with us, what? 1 day before he was banned. He wasn't a member and you won't find anyone arguing that someone using speed hacks should not be banned. You seem pretty butt hurt all of a sudden. You know that the second poisons were stated to be over powered Otto and Hasbin both banked all their poisons(even though other rogues were still seen using them and nothing was done about it). Don't drag those two through the mud just because you are upset. Neither one of them complained at all when they were told poisons were off the table. I was there in vent when it happened. Sorry you couldn't see it on DACRUSHA.