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[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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What source? For what?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not going to bat for Monsanto. I'm one of the most stupidly anti-corporate people you'll ever meet. But holy fuck these people need to get out of my face if they want me to believe CARAMEL FUCKING COLORING is some sort of tremendously powerful biological weapon.

It is no good for you to eat 90% caramel coloring because companies are to lazy to buy good flower/corn/barley/etc...

[quido]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All independent research is pushed down by corporate lawyers and paid off "research studies".

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[Glenzig]

Nm. Thought you were talkin to me. Sorry.

[quido]

I was

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Oh. You were talking to me. This isn't a court of law. The info is out there. If you look you will find it.

[quido]

I'm just curious to see what you think is good information. Let's see it.

[Glenzig]

Where is your info that GMO food is A okay?

[Faerie]

http://www.ijbs.com/v05p0706.htm

Patho-physiological profiles are unique for each GM crop/food, underlining the necessity for a case-by-case evaluation of their safety, as is largely admitted and agreed by regulators. It is not possible to make comments concerning any general, similar subchronic toxic effect for all GM foods. However, in the three GM maize varieties that formed the basis of this investigation, new side effects linked to the consumption of these cereals were revealed, which were sex- and often dose-dependent. Effects were mostly concentrated in kidney and liver function, the two major diet detoxification organs, but in detail differed with each GM type. In addition, some effects on heart, adrenal, spleen and blood cells were also frequently noted. As there normally exists sex differences in liver and kidney metabolism, the highly statistically significant disturbances in the function of these organs, seen between male and female rats, cannot be dismissed as biologically insignificant as has been proposed by others [4]. We therefore conclude that our data strongly suggests that these GM maize varieties induce a state of hepatorenal toxicity. This can be due to the new pesticides (herbicide or insecticide) present specifically in each type of GM maize, although unintended metabolic effects due to the mutagenic properties of the GM transformation process cannot be excluded [42]. All three GM maize varieties contain a distinctly different pesticide residue associated with their particular GM event (glyphosate and AMPA in NK 603, modified Cry1Ab in MON 810, modified Cry3Bb1 in MON 863). These substances have never before been an integral part of the human or animal diet and therefore their health consequences for those who consume them, especially over long time periods are currently unknown. Furthermore, any side effect linked to the GM event will be unique in each case as the site of transgene insertion and the spectrum of genome wide mutations will differ between the three modified maize types. In conclusion, our data presented here strongly recommend that additional long-term (up to 2 years) animal feeding studies be performed in at least three species, preferably also multi-generational, to provide true scientifically valid data on the acute and chronic toxic effects of GM crops, feed and foods. Our analysis highlights that the kidneys and liver as particularly important on which to focus such research as there was a clear negative impact on the function of these organs in rats consuming GM maize varieties for just 90 days.

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where is your info that GMO food is A okay?

GMO: GENETICALLY MODIFIED ORGANISM


Anything that has had gene therapy or was selectively bred is a GMO in the strictest sense of the word. Do you like tomatoes? You're eating a GMO.


Are some GMOs bad? For sure. Are all GMOs bad? Absolutely not. Instead of perpetuating a tremendously uninformed, anti-science, anti-anything I don't understand because I don't have a degree in biochemistry "information" machine and railing against the dangerous of ALL GMOs, we should be pushing for more research- not less- to identify and fix the ones that are bad, while still making use of the ones that definitely aren't and definitely have helped put a major dent in world hunger by allowing crops to not fucking die.

Remember the Irish potato famine? GMOs would have been nice, wouldn't they?