Question about xp penalty in groups

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Dirtnap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know what you guys are smoking, you can obviously tell from the way exp works that group members will not level at the same rate.

The higher the gap in your levels, the more exp the higher level person takes. The exp penalty just makes them take more of the experience.

You can be grouped in HHK for example and have an SK tank taking 60% of the xp for himself, and he would out level everyone else because he gets 2-3% per kill while everyone else is getting less than 1%.

That's now how it works, though. You should actually read the thread. The SK is taking 60% of the xp for himself, because it takes 60% of the XP for the SK to get the same 1% everyone else is getting.

[Juhstin]

These numbers hurt my head. Just group with whoever and enjoy the journey

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

drktmplr12,
Warriors get a 10% xp bonus (halfling warriors get even higher), so that throws your numbers slightly off.

Otherwise, great post.

Thanks for pointing that out, I updated the numbers. And thanks for the compliment! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by Dirtnap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can be grouped in HHK for example and have an SK tank taking 60% of the xp for himself, and he would out level everyone else because he gets 2-3% per kill while everyone else is getting less than 1%.

This is absolutely false.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by drktmplr12 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is absolutely false.

You win a Cigar. You are right. Crazy people.

[Dirtnap]

I've done my own tests and this is the way it is. You can sit there and watch your experience bar in a duo, and the person with more exp (either by level or penalty) will take more exp, and will leave the other person behind in levels over time.

Go check it out in game over the course of just 10 mobs. You will see that I am right.

[Quineloe]

Your statement would indicate that when both start with an empty exp bar, your SK would ding when the other person only made 2 yellows. I don't think you actually tested that.

[innocent51]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is absolutely incorrect.

It is mathematically correct. Bigger xp bar = drains more xp on the split. That technically means an even con troll SK will take more of the share than a hobbit warrior, so you will take less xp.
Every mob will give the same xp, hybrid penalty only means the character with xp malus will take more so mathematically "sharing" his malus.

Like drktmplr12 said, you generally don't see any difference when your tank is a troll SK or a hobbit warrior (maybe a 10 levels higher SK makes you notice) but last time in MM I had a good group of Ranger/Bard/Ikky Monk/Troll SK and I as cleric and it REALLY was slower.
But nice people are always nice [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Glain]

To male up for your xp loss you have to work 68% harder on keeping pulls steady and fast which is better than 50% of tanks lvling up

[Quineloe]

Originally Posted by Glain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To male up for your xp loss you have to work 68% harder on keeping pulls steady and fast which is better than 50% of tanks lvling up

No, as explained above, you only lower the experience the other members of the group get by 11%, so you only need to work those 11% harder to justify your hybrid penalty (assuming full group)

Originally Posted by innocent51 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like drktmplr12 said, you generally don't see any difference when your tank is a troll SK or a hobbit warrior (maybe a 10 levels higher SK makes you notice) but last time in MM I had a good group of Ranger/Bard/Ikky Monk/Troll SK and I as cleric and it REALLY was slower.
But nice people are always nice [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

were they also higher level? because at same levels, you'd have received 14.5% exp per kill, which makes it sound like the group wasn't that good.