Question about xp penalty in groups

[Quineloe]

Your statement would indicate that when both start with an empty exp bar, your SK would ding when the other person only made 2 yellows. I don't think you actually tested that.

[Glain]

To male up for your xp loss you have to work 68% harder on keeping pulls steady and fast which is better than 50% of tanks lvling up

[Quineloe]

Originally Posted by Glain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To male up for your xp loss you have to work 68% harder on keeping pulls steady and fast which is better than 50% of tanks lvling up

No, as explained above, you only lower the experience the other members of the group get by 11%, so you only need to work those 11% harder to justify your hybrid penalty (assuming full group)

Originally Posted by innocent51 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like drktmplr12 said, you generally don't see any difference when your tank is a troll SK or a hobbit warrior (maybe a 10 levels higher SK makes you notice) but last time in MM I had a good group of Ranger/Bard/Ikky Monk/Troll SK and I as cleric and it REALLY was slower.
But nice people are always nice [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

were they also higher level? because at same levels, you'd have received 14.5% exp per kill, which makes it sound like the group wasn't that good.

[innocent51]

Slightly but my "normal" friend group is rogue/war/monk/enc with no malus race (and no bonus).

[nndiro]

just curious... how far advanced velius is the xp penalty removed?

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by nndiro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just curious... how far advanced velius is the xp penalty removed?

On live it was about 1 month into velious... and it only removed class based penalties, not racial penalties.

[Dirtnap]

I can't explain the math behind what I am saying, because it SHOULDN'T be that way. It doesn't change the fact that this is how it works.

Taking a couple levels 1 characters wouldn't show this, because they would have the same total exp gained. The problem comes up when you have someone with a much larger total exp gain, like with a troll SK paired with a halfling warrior.

The SK takes the majority of the split, and will see higher % gains on his exp bar than the warrior will.

Go give it a try, team up with someone and check your exp totals. Kill 10 mobs and then see if you both went up the same %.

You will see that you wont go up the same % even though the math says you should.

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by Dirtnap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't explain the math behind what I am saying, because it SHOULDN'T be that way. It doesn't change the fact that this is how it works...

Go give it a try, team up with someone and check your exp totals. Kill 10 mobs and then see if you both went up the same %.

You will see that you wont go up the same % even though the math says you should.

Well, to be fair, I should have disclaimed that I was describing how xp worked on live. Way back when, I was contacted by server staff and shared my research and info with them. I have not ever systematically tried to verify the mechanics on P99.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On live it was about 1 month into velious... and it only removed class based penalties, not racial penalties.

Note that the racial penalties are also made self-only at the same time, so groups shouldn't care about them.

Danth

[Ofaelol]

I rolled a Half-Elf bard as my first p99 toon. Should I be worried about not being able to get exp groups?