Hot Patch: Monday, February 24th, 2014

[Haynar]

And if we could easily force looking at spell books to med, thats what casters would be doing.

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[scarletghost]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if we could easily force looking at spell books to med, thats what casters would be doing.

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Thank God, I thought I was the Only one who when they say the Love something they mean it , even if there are Negative Consequences.

More Kunark Plz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And my 2 Mains are Both Casters

[odiecat99]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if we could easily force looking at spell books to med, thats what casters would be doing.

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No thx.

pet hate fix Plz

[Nirgon]

Liking everything I see from Haynar posts

[Nirgon]

Sitting aggro is more than a single bow shot. Seriously you are claiming "broken" over that? Lawd.

[Skydash]

Mobs would never start attacking other players when I pulled them with my monk on live during this period. Even body pulls would not stop and attack sitting players.

The only time sitting mattered is when you had a bard in the group. Otherwise, sitting never generated this type of agro.

Just because you cannot remember the past, doesn't give you a right to stomp all over the future!

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Skydash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I charmed Sirran the Lunatic all the time with my enchanter etc

YAWOK

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by Skydash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mobs would never start attacking other players when I pulled them with my monk on live during this period. Even body pulls would not stop and attack sitting players.

The only time sitting mattered is when you had a bard in the group. Otherwise, sitting never generated this type of agro.

Just because you cannot remember the past, doesn't give you a right to stomp all over the future!

Were you the tank too? Or were mobs being tagged by an sk or pal on incoming?

Too many details missing.

Body pulls almost guaranted a sitter getting beat on, unless they were out of the way enough.

[Skydash]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Were you the tank too? Or were mobs being tagged by an sk or pal on incoming?

Too many details missing.

Body pulls almost guaranted a sitter getting beat on, unless they were out of the way enough.

I tried searching everywhere.. I read all the old 2001 Monkley Buziness threads about pulling: no where in all those discussions do they bring up sit agro, except one place which mentions sitting increased proximity agro for pulling, and another: sitting under mob's belly to pull agro from tank

Then I found another place discussing two agro lists for mob's. One proximity and one Hate, once the Hate agro has been established by anyone it turned the Proximity off.

From my memory, pulling for a long time in Lower Guk, only a body poll(proximity pull), had a chance of going after someone else with a higher proximity agro. But once the mob gained ANY hate, by throwing 1 shiruken.. it would stay chasing.

The reason mobs attacked sitting people when they got back to group in raids etc, is because a bard would be in the group and put everyone on the Hate list once the song hit the puller... sitting on the Hate list moved the casters up and pulled the mobs to them.

Heres some druids griping in 2003 about how agro is busted now

This guy is baffled by a new agro mechanic in 2010, and much discussion follows about SNAFU. And someone made this quote,

"If you are saying that you pulled a mob over a group of people which were not currently engaged with another mob that is social with the one you pulled over them, that none of the people in that group did anything to the mob chasing you and none of them cast a benefical spell on you (or anyone else who was already on the mob's Hate List), and that you did not somehow dump your aggro (FD, Fade, Evac, etc.) while the mob was in proximity aggro range of the group, yet the mob stopped to attack them along the way then...yes, that is definately not normal behavior. "


Anyways, hope you look at some of these posts. Very interesting stuff.

[scarletghost]

Originally Posted by Skydash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I tried searching everywhere.. I read all the old 2001 Monkley Buziness threads about pulling: no where in all those discussions do they bring up sit agro, except one place which mentions sitting increased proximity agro for pulling, and another: sitting under mob's belly to pull agro from tank

Then I found another place discussing two agro lists for mob's. One proximity and one Hate, once the Hate agro has been established by anyone it turned the Proximity off.

From my memory, pulling for a long time in Lower Guk, only a body poll(proximity pull), had a chance of going after someone else with a higher proximity agro. But once the mob gained ANY hate, by throwing 1 shiruken.. it would stay chasing.

The reason mobs attacked sitting people when they got back to group in raids etc, is because a bard would be in the group and put everyone on the Hate list once the song hit the puller... sitting on the Hate list moved the casters up and pulled the mobs to them.

Heres some druids griping in 2003 about how agro is busted now

This guy is baffled by a new agro mechanic in 2010, and much discussion follows about SNAFU. And someone made this quote,

"If you are saying that you pulled a mob over a group of people which were not currently engaged with another mob that is social with the one you pulled over them, that none of the people in that group did anything to the mob chasing you and none of them cast a benefical spell on you (or anyone else who was already on the mob's Hate List), and that you did not somehow dump your aggro (FD, Fade, Evac, etc.) while the mob was in proximity aggro range of the group, yet the mob stopped to attack them along the way then...yes, that is definately not normal behavior. "


Anyways, hope you look at some of these posts. Very interesting stuff.

/applaud