recharging and duck spell canceling

[draogan]

I'm so confused. Why are people that play red arguing about what should/shouldn't be nerfed on the carebear server?

I have no idea what goes on over on the red side. You guys could log in and type /level 60 and being 60 with epic gear for all I know. Nor do I care... because I don't play there. Why are two people from red arguing vehemently about what should be nerfed on the blue server? Misery loves company?

FWIW, I'm against duck spell canceling going away but don't care one way or the other re: recharge. Getting rid of duck spell canceling doesn't change anything about content or PvE balance but just makes us all a little bit more irritated every time we play -- though I guess irritation is very classic...

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by draogan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm so confused. Why are people that play red arguing about what should/shouldn't be nerfed on the carebear server?

I have no idea what goes on over on the red side. You guys could log in and type /level 60 and being 60 with epic gear for all I know. Nor do I care... because I don't play there. Why are two people from red arguing vehemently about what should be nerfed on the blue server? Misery loves company?

FWIW, I'm against duck spell canceling going away but don't care one way or the other re: recharge. Getting rid of duck spell canceling doesn't change anything about content or PvE balance but just makes us all a little bit more irritated every time we play -- though I guess irritation is very classic...

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[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by draogan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Getting rid of duck spell canceling doesn't change anything

You're wrong about that.

Start casting a CH with a fatfinger button press when you mean to cast a remedy? Say goodnight to your enchanter. Mean to cast feign death but you accidentally started the 16-second cast on EoT by mistake? Hope you didn't need to feign death too badly! Etc.

[draogan]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're wrong about that.

Start casting a CH with a fatfinger button press when you mean to cast a remedy? Say goodnight to your enchanter. Mean to cast feign death but you accidentally started the 16-second cast on EoT by mistake? Hope you didn't need to feign death too badly! Etc.

Who keeps pet summon spells loaded for more than 10s? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I meant by my comment is that duck interrupting doesn't change anything in terms of balance -- aka there aren't any encounters that are trivial because people can duck interrupt which would suddenly become harder. Instead, we would all be subject to more annoying deaths from just the kind of fat finger mistakes you mention above.

Then again, more annoying deaths definitely == classic.

[Mac Dretti]

Correct me i'm wrong, but wasn't soulfire usable by anyone from inventory at this time in the live timeline?

It was nerfed much sooner here because it allowed content to be trivialized. You want 5 instant CH's for raids? Add Paladins to your guild.

Same should be done with recharging.

You want the luxury of WC Gate hats? Go on the Journey and quest it. You want mallets for raids? Go turn in rubies. You want allure wands? Go raid planes. You want OT hammer? Do the faction quest/farm sarnaks. You want root nets? Go to permafrost and camp them.

Wait until velious when a guild wipes in sleeper/TOV and they have their monk using rechargable rez sticks to get the entire guild back up and going in 2.5 minutes. It's going to be a joke and any guild waiting to move in is going to be screwed because they will never be able to move in after Guild A wipes.

[pasi]

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait until velious when a guild wipes in sleeper/TOV and they have their monk using rechargable rez sticks to get the entire guild back up and going in 2.5 minutes. It's going to be a joke and any guild waiting to move in is going to be screwed because they will never be able to move in after Guild A wipes.

Rez goos are ridiculously common. Necros can also easily rez and DA train away adds. Guilds also have the common sense to put a cleric bot in the ST pipe or near Aaryonar. Keep in mind you pull almost everything to Aaryonar for the first year anyways.

Recharging doesn't affect a lot on blue; whereas on red, it is much different.

Golem Wands and WC Caps on recharge would be a horrible thing for PvP.

Mallets will more or less be the same. Puppet String's biggest effect is flooding the server with OT hammers, but that's more or less a convenience thing. It allows for certain classes to do great things with smaller numbers, but the effect doesn't matter a ton since the major difficulty on blue is actually finding alive mobs.

WC Caps allow people to cheat death in some cases, but it's still nothing game breaking in the context of PvE.

Lastly, Lockets will allow melee to bind easier in PoM. Mostly effects monks as other melee don't get PoM armor.

[Handull]

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Correct me i'm wrong, but wasn't soulfire usable by anyone from inventory at this time in the live timeline?

It was nerfed much sooner here because it allowed content to be trivialized. You want 5 instant CH's for raids? Add Paladins to your guild.

Same should be done with recharging.

You want the luxury of WC Gate hats? Go on the Journey and quest it. You want mallets for raids? Go turn in rubies. You want allure wands? Go raid planes. You want OT hammer? Do the faction quest/farm sarnaks. You want root nets? Go to permafrost and camp them.

Wait until velious when a guild wipes in sleeper/TOV and they have their monk using rechargable rez sticks to get the entire guild back up and going in 2.5 minutes. It's going to be a joke and any guild waiting to move in is going to be screwed because they will never be able to move in after Guild A wipes.

lol. personally i'd rather go turn in rubies and vendor the axes. this item will always be easy to get with recharging or not, don't see why people like you keep harming on it.

and have you tried to recharge a vox rez stick on blue? it doesn't happen, the buyback is ~2million plat.

[Mac Dretti]

Originally Posted by Handull [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol. personally i'd rather go turn in rubies and vendor the axes. this item will always be easy to get with recharging or not, don't see why people like you keep harming on it.

and have you tried to recharge a vox rez stick on blue? it doesn't happen, the buyback is ~2million plat.

Stop trolling and stop telling people they aren't allowed to post in server chat.

[McnealJ]

Lol why so many red tears in this thread you guys are embarrassing me in front of the bluebies

[Mac Dretti]

are you implying non paladins can click soulfire right now?

edit: wow you are right...

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[PvP Only] The following items may only be clicked by the appropriate class

• SoulFire may only be clicked by paladins.
• Reaper of the Dead may only be clicked by shadow knights.

i remember reading nilbog/rogean talking about how dumb it was that a single tank/cleric could take a ragefire/naggy with soulfires and rune shields, but i guess they never pulled the trigger