Drinking and driving is a victimless crime

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Lron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Speed is a higher risk factor to road fatalities than drinking.

I disagree.

Speed by itself is not a factor. If the road supports a car driving at 100-120 mph and your car can handle those speeds, then there shouldn't be an issue.

The issue comes when you as a driver can't handle those speeds, or your car, or distractions while speeding.

Then the other issue, are other drivers who can't handle other people driving faster than them.

The autobahn has less crashes per capita than the US, because they actually understand how to react to fast drivers, and proper use of the road and lanes (Get the fuck out of the left lane fucktards).

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree.

Speed by itself is not a factor. If the road supports a car driving at 100-120 mph and your car can handle those speeds, then there shouldn't be an issue.

The issue comes when you as a driver can't handle those speeds, or your car, or distractions while speeding.

Then the other issue, are other drivers who can't handle other people driving faster than them.

The autobahn has less crashes per capita than the US, because they actually understand how to react to fast drivers, and proper use of the road and lanes (Get the fuck out of the left lane fucktards).

fuck I cant tell you how many times a day I say this

[Rogean]

Speaking of 120 mph.. This other guy and I were driving along last night upwards of 130 MPH, right up the ass of a Rhode Island trooper. Guess he was off duty...

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[Lron]

lol nice video. I drove that fast on the way across the country once.

My point about "speeding" being the biggest indicator in deaths was more philosophical than pragmatic.

If the speed limits were 5-10 mph everywhere...hundreds of thousands of lives would be saved a year...there is no arguing this point.

In a free society we give up absolute safety and security to liberty, drinking and driving is a freedom and a right as long as you dont hurt someone in the process of your drinking and driving.

[Danth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEvB_ZIWtAg

What roads with a 10 MPH speed limit might look like

Danth

[Rogean]

There's a video somewhere showing a group of college students getting on one side of an 8 lane highway and all driving side by side doing the speed limit of 55 at rush hour. People start going nuts driving around them on the shoulder, hitting their bumpers, flipping them off, etc.

Unsafe at any speed.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a video somewhere showing a group of college students getting on one side of an 8 lane highway and all driving side by side doing the speed limit of 55 at rush hour. People start going nuts driving around them on the shoulder, hitting their bumpers, flipping them off, etc.

Unsafe at any speed.

lol Id love to see that, it would also piss me right off.

[Rogean]

I couldn't find a version of the video that other kids at the same college took and edited to annoying levels.

[SamwiseRed]

op trying so hard lol

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEvB_ZIWtAg

What roads with a 10 MPH speed limit might look like

Danth

So much more immersion than modern roads IMO.