Request for Review of P99 Source

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ever seen a zone with 1000 ppl in it? Stand by!

Ice Clad will hit well over 1k, and the lucky few that can make it to EW will be kings.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I fix stuff.

Sometimes fixes on complicated issues dont go smooth.

I have spent a significant amount of time working on the TT issue. Finding right balance of fix. But much is based on how client will behave. We dont have source code to client, so not all changes can predicted.

You would not believe the time spent just getting this clunky ass eqemu code to handle the user numbers we throw at it. And much is being done to prep for Velious release.

Ever seen a zone with 1000 ppl in it? Stand by!

Hopefully ghosting is fixed now.

Release source? Hah. Its very controlled access.

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[Erati]

so anyone that is able to play today..

is ghosting fixed with the server reboot this morning or are we still on hold with the fix until the next 'official patch'?

[loramin]

It's worth pointing out that open source doesn't have to be an all or nothing deal. If it was desired (and that's a big if) the devs could open source the non-controversial parts of the code, and leave the controversial bits (ie. anything that people could exploit by reading) closed source. They could even say "we won't expose any of our code, but we still use these ____ modules of the original (open source) EQEmulator code; by all means fix stuff in them and send the fixes to the EQEmulator maintainers".

This would have the benefit of ... well of not having most of the downsides people mentioned, while still leaving the possibility of "free" bug-fixes and code improvements from random contributors. And, that would include contributions of unit tests. As I'm sure all the developers here know: A) you can never have enough unit tests, and B) they are one of the only things you can really do to prevent random bugs.

I admit though, there is one valid downside that has mentioned about open source: you do need a "community manager" of some sort to accept patches and deal with the inevitable "why U no like me code?!?" fallout from rejected patches.

P.S. As I said before, none of this should be misconstrued as pressure on the devs to do anything they don't want to do with their code.

[Furniture]

I think benefits from releasing the source outweighs the negatives. These bugs and several others would be fixed much quicker. As quido said, the real meat of the server is the database and that does not need to be released in order for the community to fix the bugs in question.

I know the staff has been dead set on not sharing their work which is well within their rights but i wish they would consider this.

[fadetree]

The path has been laid out in previous posts...if you want to do work to fix things, there is already a path to doing that. I suggest you take them up on it.

[Tongpow]

well on the bright side, i heard in chardok the entire train is warping and killing the puller, apparently its not every pull though ;/

this bug is doing god's work, deal with it.

[Buriedpast]

To be fair, nearly everyone I see in chardok is fairly bad at eq.

Who repeats the same action and expects a different result for 7 hours straight. Lol at that. No consideration to move the group to pits, or just do 40mob pulls or pull in a different manner. Just continue the same for 7 hours killing he same lemmings.

[applesauce25r624]

let the mystic help out, damnit!
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[a_gnoll_pup]

To all of you guys wanting an open-source P99, why not try these links?

http://www.peqtgc.com/
https://github.com/EQEmu/Server

Surely you're capable of forking these, if you weren't, why would you be making threads like this?