Poor and Rich, no middle?!

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Things are priced quite differently than on live for a variety of reasons and IMO the pricing is quite reasonable based on what we know about the game now and how much better a lot of us have gotten in understanding it.

Look at some of the old screenshots and you'll see that:
- haste is very much under-valued on live (fbss were commonly seen at 4-7k)
- stats were over valued (lamentation 7k lol)
- large stratification in regen items (rubicite was super expensive, ikky Bp was cheap, fungi was at least double the p99 price). P99 price for regen actually scales very nicely (compare price vs. regen amount).

Bottom line is, aside from items that no longer drop, the prices for items in the game are very much in line with their known value in terms of strength.

Spells not so much.

[Reguiy]

Just think of it as a marathon, not a sprint. Starting out on this server really blows since it's very difficult to make a relevant amount of money until you're 50+. Incidental plat you get from leveling up is hardly worth anything (ie - selling fine steel, gems, etc). And farming for plat (ie - seafuries, farming hill giants, etc) is a relatively low source of income as plat values on the server are very low due to inflation. Once you get 50+ you'll be able to start farming items which yield much more cash.

[tristantio]

As has been mentioned, poor would be seeking items like Bone Bladed Claymore/Mino Axe/Tentacle Whip for your level (20s), not gear with ratios that are good 50+.

Theres basically the "junk" gear, overly common/easy to get/not in high demand for twinks, and the "good" gear, which is priced according to what twinks wanting best in slot will pay.

Also, while there may be an abundance of plat, there are always items to be gained at any level that higher levels will pay for (such as bone chips at 10pp/stack).

[Splorf22]

The OP is not wrong. Basically the server has been out for a while, so there is a huge difference in price between BiS and 2nd best.

Example:
FBSS 10k
Sash of the Dragonborn: 15k
RBG: 60k
Cloak of Flames: 125k

Or:
Hooded Black Cloak: 3.5k
Hierophant's Cloak: 45k

What irritates me, though, is the idea that it's hard to progress on this server. PLEASE. You can level insanely fast because half of your group is twinked to the gills and the other half has random dudes dropping in to give them high level buffs. You can then join a guild and the officers have probably been playing for two years and have literally every pixel in the game, so you are on the short list.

As a Paladin your path is PARTICULARLY easy because no one else plays the class. Join any casual guild and you'll have 41% haste and full valorium and such within a few months tops. Then you'll either get your books outright with the new raid rules or maybe buy them (only like 30k, which isn't that bad if you are 50+ and it is the fucking EPIC). Voila, Fiery Defender. Get lucky on a Hiero cloak in the crypt and boom, you're done - Deepwater is trash anyway with AC not working properly.

[joejccva71]

Originally Posted by KwwBall [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya so pretty much there isn't really anyone who is poor on p99. Thanks myxomatosii and Sarajo, as well as everyone else who has participated.

It seems to me that the amount of money that comes into the economy is vastly larger than the money that leaves via money sinks. Original EQ IMO didn't have a whole bunch of money sinks, compared to other MMO's now.

Do you think this is a problem for p99? Maybe the people in charge should invent new money sinks?

I have 5 plat to my name. I just started my character the other night and I'm only level 4. I would say that I am pretty poor. I don't have a high level character to twink him out with.

[Dweed]

For a pally you can get verrry nice gear for cheep, exceptions being maybe some black saph jewlery, RBG, and a heiro cloak. So a few purchasable items to strive for someday, alongside epic and raid drops.

Seems like a reasonable progression.

[Splorf22]

Also, just to add: a new server would not solve this problem. The problem we have is a lack of content: Nilbog (despite being a 1-man army) releases expansions much more slowly than Verant, while at the same time we have a very hard core playerbase who can look up exactly how to do everything on EQ live and zoom through things.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Reguiy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just think of it as a marathon, not a sprint.

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

within a few months tops.

Here's the issue for a lot of frustration on the server I think. EQ is the definition of a slow-paced MMO. It is not the place to come play and grind out xp to max level in a couple weeks and then get yourself decked out in uber gear in another few weeks after that. But a lot of people seem to forget that.

I've had the most fun on p99 (and experienced the least "burn out" playing it) with my enchanter, where I set long-term goals for him (do the solo artist challenge, get my epic, get rich) but kept them WAY in the back of my mind and just plugged away at the game in the meantime.

Everyone knows hell levels go by less painfully when you aren't watching your xp bar for every kill. Everyone knows leveling is more fun if you don't spend all your time beating yourself up over how far you still have until 60. But people treat gear/wealth on p99 differently it seems. We never have threads where people are demanding xp bonuses scaling inversely with level to help them catch up with all the 60s, but we CONSTANTLY have people making threads lamenting the high cost of uber gear and how difficult it is for new players to get that stuff.

[tristantio]

Originally Posted by joejccva71 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have 5 plat to my name. I just started my character the other night and I'm only level 4. I would say that I am pretty poor. I don't have a high level character to twink him out with.

Welcome to p99!

Farm some bone chips, they sell for 10pp a stack all the time!

[Aeaolena]

Originally Posted by joejccva71 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have 5 plat to my name. I just started my character the other night and I'm only level 4. I would say that I am pretty poor. I don't have a high level character to twink him out with.

Get a port to Greater Faydark.

Hunt / Group in Crushbone. If you get any belts/pads, you can sell those to other players (1pp per belt, 2pp per pad used to be the norm). That will help you get some nice newbie leather/chain off the merchants while you gain a few levels.

Once you get level 14 or so, head over to "Sister's camp" in Lesser Faydark. They drop bronze weapons and when your bags are full you can hike over to the woodelf inn (#10), sell, and skip back. You'll make 200pp a night, if not a lot more. Solo, or duo it with someone. (If someone is there ask them to send you a tell when they leave).
http://wiki.project1999.com/index.php/Lesser_Faydark
#14 is what I am referring to on the map, but #4 has Bandits with bronze weapons also.

The Aviak's that guard The Arena entrance in Lake Rathetear are also good (level 20 solo spot). They can drop Bronze weapons that sell for 1-4pp each also. Large Sewing Kits from the merchants are usually dirt cheap as 'bags' and can hold giant items, just fyi.
http://www.allakabor.com/eqatlas/lakerathetear.html

Sisters and Aviaks outside the Arena are the places where I culled pp to first upgrades while I was leveling Aeaolena. Beyond that, I am sure you could do a forum search for "Money Making Camps" and find ideas. Places that will earn you top dollar while you are leveling. Two birds with one stone, etc etc.

I also do not have familiarity on what level you need to camp or group for http://wiki.project1999.com/Vopuk_Shralok in Highpass..
But he is level 22 and high level characters will buy his shiny brass idol for upwards of 500pp it seems.
(Ref: http://wiki.project1999.com/Shiny_Brass_Idol)

Good luck!