Drama Spotlight: Quiet and the Windstriker Bow

[Pappa]

I Agree acquiring DKP thru any other means then raiding is complete shit. Although I don't really log on to much any more and why should I? I got like 5 more fungi's I can sell for DKP if I really wanted to lolol.

[Kaahbal]

If Nihilum had dkp for helping other people only Kinamaraa, Ruban and Tune would get loot. 4EVER.

[Pappa]

Who is kaahbal?

[Mac Dretti]

a nobody from 4 years ago

[Kaahbal]

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[Agatha]

Originally Posted by mcappy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For 'the fairest loot system' it sounds suspiciously stacked in favor of the long-time players who have loads of shit to sell and very little to gain from fear/hate clears or Nagafen kills.

by george i think you are onto something, if only i could figure out who this helps out the most...... who is allied with RD who has been farming seb for 2 years.

[Kaahbal]

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[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Lime [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like Red Dawn has a fantastic System in place.

Actually their system provides an incentive for geared out or max level people to continue to help new members, something crucial for an upcoming guild here to survive with lots of new blood in total rags.

[heartbrand]

I'm glad everyone is so concerned about our loot system. We had an internal vote and the members overwhelming love the system, albeit with a couple of tweaks. And why wouldn't they? It allows people who raid and don't have anything tangible they need to get, trade their time and effort for real upgrades such as a fungi or a recently upgraded raid item without needing 70k pp to do so. Those who put in time to raid get upgrades they need, those who can't raid as much will have incentive to assist the guild and be part of it by trading their time (farming pixels) for other people's time ( raiding). It's the free market at its best working beautifully.

All this stuff about people farming seb is fraudulent. No one is allowed to monopolize camps in red dawn, and all groups are guild charter enforced need before greed. What has happened is people have upgraded items such as their RBB to 41% haste , and rather than putting that RBB on a twink or selling it for pp, they are instead putting it back into the guild for dkp. Everyone wins. The people who benefit the most are those who raid the most because they are able to get real needed upgrades from others, making the force stronger as a whole.

Sure we can all pretend people will do this stuff for free, just like tehruoh gave his cof to the guild when he got his haste or ordaga did (oh wait they didnt) or all of those free fungis passed out in nihilum (wait wut?) what does your dkp get you in nihilum? Nada. Zilch. It's officer loot. Once your geared your dkp is effectively worthless. In red dawn, you can use that dkp to still get items you want from other members. It incentivizes those who have what they need to keep raiding.

There's a couple of tweaks needed with some item caps and what not, but in general it's a great system which is why the members have overwhelming supported it. Thanks for your concern all!

[heartbrand]

And to add, there was one small issue we saw, someone farming rather than raiding, which was easily closed by forbidding the sale of all loot from those who farm during raids. All deals have to be posted on our public forums and approved to make sure it's legit. Everything is in the open. It's the free market working beautifully. 1 dkp is already worth about 1000pp.