How hard is Velious, really? - Page 5

Shiftin · #1 01-16-2014, 07:07 PM

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yea I don't think anything with a skill mod for backstabbing will be avail to P99's Velious

that screams like one of her upgraded loot pieces after Luclin

( could be wrong so don't crucify me instantly)

The pic is of the upgraded one because I was lazy. I had to look a little harder but the original is very similar without a backstab mod:

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Clark · #2 01-17-2014, 02:54 AM

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Frieza_Prexus · #3 01-17-2014, 03:05 AM

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the currently bugged AC formula here going to play very strongly into the difficulty of Velious?

IIRC, mob AC played a very important part in determining the usefulness of a wizard over a melee DPS. Weren't some bosses incredibly hard to damage through melee resulting in a ton of 1 point hits and backstabs? With AC as it is, will melee DPS be a lot higher than it should be?

pasi · #4 01-16-2014, 08:12 PM

Posted about it a bunch of times before, but everything is doable day 1.

DPS gains are more than made up for by having more numbers and better knowledge of game mechanics.
Cleric gear doesn't matter much until modrods eat it in Luclin.
Defensive tanks can currently tank everything but AoW - who isn't that much further out of reach with Velious spells (very common unlike Kunark spells) and 1 or 2 upgrades. You only need the gear to not be one rounded as a proper CHeal Chain only allows one round (+Flurry and Ripos) before the tank is fully healed.

The most difficult part of AoW is going to be transitioning from tank 1 to tank 2 as defensive runs out. SoulFires and Aggro clickies help a lot with that. In addition, Kael is a bindable zone so it's not like pulling aggro and dying is a huge deal.

Even if you made him hit for a million, Kael being a bindable zone makes bind rushing and disc tanking (flurry goes through riposte) very possible. Look at how Kerafyrm fell and melee couldn't bind in ST.

PS - I wouldn't constantly post this, but the general opinion seems to be that mobs having high HP makes them difficult. The version of VP that we saw here was more difficult than all but a handful of mobs in Velious.

Daldaen · #5 01-16-2014, 11:11 PM

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SoulFires and Aggro clickies help a lot with that.

That is another thing that needs to get crushed. SoulFire clicks from non-paladins. So very stupid and should've been nerfed many moons ago. It may just bring more viability to paladins on raids and stop people perma-farming Sir Lucan D'Lere to sell the MQ.