Suggested fix for re-enabling staring at spellbook sub-35

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

casters are very powerful in classic EQ...two of the big reasons to not play a caster in classic were having to be vulnerable while medding (not yet implemented) and manually memming your spells (this has been implemented, no more saved spell lists).

staring at the spellbook wasn't just an immersion thing. it actually affected game play. you were effectively blind if you wanted to med up faster. this affected your ability to solo in certain places and also required you to trust group mates if you were grouping.

getting jumped by a mob as you med (full damage from sitting) can almost kill a low lvl caster in many zones.

while i agree that removing it was a thing that made EQ better in the long run (why the eventually removed it on live) it was a real part of the game balancing for casters imo in classic.

Totally agree with this. PVE and PVP.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

casters are very powerful in classic EQ...two of the big reasons to not play a caster in classic were having to be vulnerable while medding (not yet implemented) and manually memming your spells (this has been implemented, no more saved spell lists).

staring at the spellbook wasn't just an immersion thing. it actually affected game play. you were effectively blind if you wanted to med up faster. this affected your ability to solo in certain places and also required you to trust group mates if you were grouping.

getting jumped by a mob as you med (full damage from sitting) can almost kill a low lvl caster in many zones.

while i agree that removing it was a thing that made EQ better in the long run (why the eventually removed it on live) it was a real part of the game balancing for casters imo in classic.

Or you just use Hide or Invise while medding.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or you just use Hide or Invise while medding.

Yes.

You were required to take special precautions, actions, and make considerations because of the effect that medding (i.e. staring at the book blinding you) had on actual game play.

I would hardly say that hide/invis makes being blind while medding an obsolete risk, but yes...those would be some of the extra precautions you might take to protect yourself as a caster (if you have access to them). There are others as well.

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes.

You were required to take special precautions, actions, and make considerations because of the effect that medding (i.e. staring at the book blinding you) had on actual game play.

I would hardly say that hide/invis makes being blind while medding an obsolete risk, but yes...those would be some of the extra precautions you might take to protect yourself as a caster (if you have access to them). There are others as well.

Going invis/hiding also wasn't viable if you used a pet.

Of course, after lvl 35 you could med without the spellbook anyways so it's not like this would make a major major difference to people for long. Just an annoyance while on an alt.

[Dirtnap]

The number of people here for the wrong reasons is starting to bother me. Why the hell are people here for Classic EQ, and then saying "We don't want classic!"

Classic up or get out.

[Talawen]

ya i thought you meant JUST the spell book and nothing else. im clear on what you mean now and thats fine.

edit: I thought you meant this
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without the rest of the UI.

[Talawen]

so in theory it would look something like this?

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or could you actually force the 800x600 UI at that point on to someone?

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Talawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so in theory it would look something like this?

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or could you actually force the 800x600 UI at that point on to someone?

That ^ with the spell book element as well. I don't see forcing a 800x600 ui until we have a legit classic UI to use.

[Skittlez]

If the devs add this back in they're gonna piss off a lot of people. All because boohoo it's not classic without it. At the VERY most the devs should allow as an option that can be toggled with a / command or a checkbox in the options for all you titty babies that actually want this dumb shit.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Skittlez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

..piss..boohoo..not classic..option../command..checkbox..titty babies..dumb shit.

I understand your opinions/concern, but it is irrelevant to my personal interest.

Provided we had the means to launch a fully classic server in 2009, that's what we would have done.