New Raid Rules question - how would "unguilded" pickup raids be handled?

[falkun]

Then help them after the 6-hr period. Or help them on an FFA spawn. FFA is FFA. But the rules already spell out what can and cannot be done during C and R spawns. That's what FFA is, free for ALL. All is everyone, everyone can attempt them (within the PNP).

[JayN]

a lot of hard-cores dont spend as much time online as most casuals for the sake of their sanity and efficiency of allotted playtime.

Many dont want to sit online with spamming nublets or tardlings spinning their wheels in place.

Many just want to raid, since that is what EQ is about for us/them..

not spamming and trolling one another or grieving

[YendorLootmonkey]

It's quicker to get loots for RMT if you have a main in each of 5 raiding guilds, I would suspect.

[JayN]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's quicker to get loots for RMT if you have a main in each of 5 raiding guilds, I would suspect.

Probably.

It also would give you a lot more raiding experience a lot quicker also.

and many other things

[Tasslehofp99]

Ok...so what if like someone wants to form a pickup raid and invite anyone from any guild to participare/random on drops?

Would those people that were in guilds locked out of whatever mob the pickup raid is going after be punished for joining said pickup raid?

Pickup raids are classic as fuck, would be retarded as hell if they were outlawed under this new raid agreement.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok...so what if like someone wants to form a pickup raid and invite anyone from any guild to participare/random on drops?

Would those people that were in guilds locked out of whatever mob the pickup raid is going after be punished for joining said pickup raid?

Pickup raids are classic as fuck, would be retarded as hell if they were outlawed under this new raid agreement.

Yet no pick up raids ever happened on this server with any sort of reasonable frequency before these restrictions were put in place...

Not (P99) classic.

But seriously. If your guild is locked out from it and a pickup raid goes, you should be able to attend just not win any loot.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok...so what if like someone wants to form a pickup raid and invite anyone from any guild to participare/random on drops?

Would those people that were in guilds locked out of whatever mob the pickup raid is going after be punished for joining said pickup raid?

Pickup raids are classic as fuck, would be retarded as hell if they were outlawed under this new raid agreement.

why didn't you try to do this kind of stuff before these rules is my only question

acting like this new agreement ( which allows many more formal opportunities for pick up raiding) is hindering something that never made it to fruition under the old system is kind of silly.

Note: I read that you said somewhere that you 'tried' to set up some pick up raids, so I might have missed if one of these actually happened, in which case my apology.

And a 'pick up' dungeon crawl raid doesn't count.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why didn't you try to do this kind of stuff before these rules is my only question

acting like this new agreement ( which allows many more formal opportunities for pick up raiding) is hindering something that never made it to fruition under the old system is kind of silly.

Note: I read that you said somewhere that you 'tried' to set up some pick up raids, so I might have missed if one of these actually happened, in which case my apology.


And a 'pick up' dungeon crawl raid doesn't count.

I've done some minor pickup raids but prior to this agreement the amount of coordination/organization required to go after any mobs of substance was a little bit out of hand. Now that some mobs are more open/available, I see no reason why pickup raids should be excluded from going after them.

In particular, some of the easier mobs like Maestro/Faydedar/VS/Draco are all easily killed by any 15-20 people. Why can't people who aren't interested in joining any of the current guilds for whatever reason help form pickup raids (inviting anyone who wants to come) and go after these easier targets? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've done some minor pickup raids but prior to this agreement the amount of coordination/organization required to go after any mobs of substance was a little bit out of hand. Now that some mobs are more open/available, I see no reason why pickup raids should be excluded from going after them.

In particular, some of the easier mobs like Maestro/Faydedar/VS/Draco are all easily killed by any 15-20 people. Why can't people who aren't interested in joining any of the current guilds for whatever reason help form pickup raids (inviting anyone who wants to come) and go after these easier targets? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they can, but the more sought after targets you listed there ( Fay and VS) will more than likely have a Class R guild that is preparing for them so the pick up raid will have to deal with a little competition

If you are talking about the 'classic' pick up raid scenario where a mob spawns and the organizer sends tells /shouts etc to many zones, gathers his force and crawls through the dungeon to slay the mob.....then this is already achievable very easily with this new raiding system. I have already stated that Naggy and Vox will both have Class R spawns deemed for 'pick up' raiding. When this happens those dragons will be left up for 4 hours and anyone can organize and kill them.

Heck it can be worked out for them to be left up EVEN longer if the Tier C guilds let them live that long.

The more contested/sought after mobs however will be very hard to do a pick-up raid and will most likely have to join guilds to kill. The Tier R guilds have rarely seen these mobs themselves and are chomping at the bit just to experience them.

Theres nothing stopping the Tier C guilds also letting their mobs go to be 'pick up' designated. No Tier R guilds will touch the Class C mobs in fear of turning into a C guild so if you work it out between the other C's then you can have your Pick Up raid slots just as easy as the R's can.

This system allows for it very easy. What it doesn't allow is for many random guilded people to join in on this fun without getting their guilds locked out. Thats where I agree with you and your sentiments.

[Vandy]

Guess they could go for FFA mobs, I think in the class R cycle anything done will be autolocked out.