Get rid of PNP rules

[runlvlzero]

2 many level 60 red dawns griefing pixels all over Norrath.

Think of the bits and SQL server.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GMs and obviously guides should have no say on how a whole server is interacting with eachother. Let the community handle themselves.

because the community has thus far shown us how amazing it is at this right?

rules will be fine, and shouldn't effect people that dont try to slip past them. follow the rules or leave. those are your choices [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Technique]

Originally Posted by Vile [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

love the tears

Most people who're "crying" just want to play a game without ambiguous, even contradictory, external rules supplanting the game's own internal ones.

I don't see anyone complaining about no longer being allowed to ride your naked ass from zone-to-zone leaving a trail of corpses all the way back to your bind. Most just want to be able to PvP on a PvP server without needing to launch a fucking full-blown public inquiry into whether it's legal to attack another player with a red nametag who cons threateningly.

If you enjoy turning a dry, blind eye to the absurdity fostered by the new PnP, know that xerophthalmia is a disease.

And so are you.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Technique [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Technique [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most people who're "crying" just want to play a game without ambiguous, even contradictory, external rules supplanting the game's own internal ones.

I don't see anyone complaining about no longer being allowed to ride your naked ass from zone-to-zone leaving a trail of corpses all the way back to your bind. Most just want to be able to PvP on a PvP server without needing to launch a fucking full-blown public inquiry into whether it's legal to attack another player with a red nametag who cons threateningly.

If you enjoy turning a dry, blind eye to the absurdity fostered by the new PnP, know that xerophthalmia is a disease.

And so are you.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

because the community has thus far shown us how amazing it is at this right?

rules will be fine, and shouldn't effect people that dont try to slip past them. follow the rules or leave. those are your choices [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey Sirkdawg. Will the simulated repops be occurring on red also or just blue?

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey Sirkdawg. Will the simulated repops be occurring on red also or just blue?

Offtopic.

[HippoNipple]

I completely understand why there are people that are against PnP. I also understand that they don't understand the macro of how it effects game play. It isn't meant to grief player that don't know how to play nice. If implemented correctly and governed so that players are not able to take advantage/exploit the rules the PnP will:

1) help players get their corpse and move on without being griefed over and over in small scale pvp

2) change how big scale pvp works - 1 kill per character with no bind rushing

This allows guilds to fight over PvE content, as a PvP server should, and then allow the victor time to do whatever PvE content they just won in PvP.

I'm not saying RD has done everything 100% but they haven't resisted it as blatantly as Nihilum has either. For a guild leader to speak out against a system that shows common decency and respect among competing guilds is disgusting.

The server would be much more fun if some decency could be shown and guilds were able to do mass PvP, respecting the winner, and not breaking the rules. For this to happen guild leaders need to accept this and be role models. They should be willing to meet with other guild leaders and push for a compromise. Guides will listen if you are reasonable and would most likely listen to spokesman from Nihilum and Red Dawn if they agreed. Grow up and be men about it.

As long as all these level 60's follow a leader who is too blinded by his own arrogance and greed to push for a healthier server everyone will suffer. We will be forced to deal with people getting banned/suspended because their leader supports those that cheat/exploit the current rules to get an edge on the competition. Going up against a guild doing this also puts competing guilds in a tight spot since they have to willingly sit by and be beaten by those breaking the rules or break some themselves.

This server deserves a number one guild with a better leader.

[Technique]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For a guild leader to speak out against a system that shows common decency and respect among competing guilds is disgusting.

I don't see any people speaking out against the spirit of the policy, just the flawed, inadequate implementation of it.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Technique [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most people who're "crying" just want to play a game without ambiguous, even contradictory, external rules supplanting the game's own internal ones.

I don't see anyone complaining about no longer being allowed to ride your naked ass from zone-to-zone leaving a trail of corpses all the way back to your bind. Most just want to be able to PvP on a PvP server without needing to launch a fucking full-blown public inquiry into whether it's legal to attack another player with a red nametag who cons threateningly.

If you enjoy turning a dry, blind eye to the absurdity fostered by the new PnP, know that xerophthalmia is a disease.

And so are you.

It's comments like these that hurt the server. Can't embrace good competition and try to move forward instead of sitting in the filth this server has become over the years. You can still PvP on this server and do whatever you want as long as it isn't griefing. Were you killing that many people on corpse runs prior to the rule changes that ruins so much fun for you?

I understand there will be individuals like this that are small minded or just want to see the world burn but the problem is when a guild is lead by one of these individuals. Nizzar needs to give up his ego and become a guild leader this server can respect. I'm not trying to say he needs to step down or be banned, but he needs to man up and stop being a scum lord.