The Dragons Keep On Dying

[Technique]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are defending spectre and tune who killed Julian no less than FIVE times naked on cr. Give me a break.

A person of normal intelligence would've paused for a moment after the 1st or 2nd death and come to the realization that he should stop trying to CR until the coast was clear.

The penalty for dying to PvP in this game is so laughably slight (no item loot, no exp loss, not even a record of death unless someone took a screenshot) that a policy to protect people from their own stupidity should be wholly unnecessary.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Technique [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A person of normal intelligence would've paused for a moment after the 1st or 2nd death and come to the realization that he should stop trying to CR until the coast was clear.

The penalty for dying to PvP in this game is so laughably slight (no item loot, no exp loss, not even a record of death unless someone took a screenshot) that a policy to protect people from their own stupidity should be wholly unnecessary.

Thanks for demonstrating exactly why the pnp is needed.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Witness [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hi play by the rules and you won't get banned. No level of fraps/screenies/cries can do anything if you play by the rules. That's like saying wah wah wah I got a speeding ticket for going 100mph. The cop was rule lawyering and he should have just let it play out cuz I probably wouldn't have cause an accident anyways

You don't lose your license to drive for the rest of your life for getting a speeding ticket. The punishment is absolutely absurd for the infractions on BOTH sides. I was in CoM when Melky got banned, none of us petitioned it but Sirken was there. He was bound in CoM, we killed him in legitimate PVP and he didn't scoot fast enough. He was DT'd and that was the last time I have seen him online. Do you really think that is a fair and just punishment? I use that as an example because it wasn't a Nihilum member getting punished so hopefully nobody will accuse me of being biased.

There are no "rights" here, the staff can do what they want. They don't need any cause to ban anyone. If they wanted certain individuals gone I wish they'd just ban them and be done with it so we can move on with our EQ lives.

I know I'm really reaching here. I'm hoping people can see through the RD vs Nihilum nonsense and look at this from a purely human perspective.

Do you believe it is fair and just to lose hundreds of hours of work on a character because you killed someone naked on CR? Forget if you agree or disagree with the rule. Forget which side you're on. Forget who killed who. Answer honestly, is that fair?

Why can't we put in a system where PVP PNP violators first receive a 24 hour "warning" suspension, followed by a week suspension on a second offense? On subsequent offenses they can receive one month suspensions. I'd honestly prefer a system where even the biggest scum can log in and mess with people once a month over them losing their character permanently.

[Nirgon]

Corpse camping and not letting players CR was not allowed on RZ. Glad to see its not allowed here.

[Technique]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for demonstrating exactly why the pnp is needed.

Because people (in the aforementioned instance, one of your members) are helpless idiots.

[k9quaint]

Originally Posted by Technique [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because people (in the aforementioned instance, one of your members) are helpless idiots.

Sounds like you are the helpless one. The rules are simple and straightforward. Follow them. If people like you could read and comprehend, the GMs would not have needed to drop the hammer like this. Instead, we are saddled with a rule-set that is enforceable because the previous one was abused and ignored by toxic players/guilds.

Don't like the rules? Create your own EQEMU server. You and 20 other people can try to grief each other off of it.

Once the toxicity has been purged, the GMs might relax things a bit. Until then, I hope they ban those who think their petty slights are more important than the health of the server.

[Nirgon]

We tried this corpse camping shit at Zlandicar for sure and the GMs pulled their corpses, rezzed them and sent us back to our binds. Anti-PnP shit ain't allowed. Neither was constantly attacking someone for an hour on end.

Players also definitely got suspended for corpse camping and training.

[Technique]

Originally Posted by Hateraid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It wasn't technically allowed, but it was not enforced unless it was a VERY extreme case.

Yeah, it's one thing for some dicks to perch on a pile of your bodies, chasing you from zone to zone all the way back to your bind for hours on end, but I'm practically gobsmacked that people honestly believe they should be entitled to safe passage to recover their corpses even while fighting is still going on all around them.

Originally Posted by k9quaint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like you are the helpless one. The rules are simple and straightforward.

The problem is the rules are too simple. At best they're insufficient (and at worst, counterintuitive) for governing several scenarios that've already been described in other recent threads. Anyone who maintains otherwise is too simple themselves.

It's bad enough that the staff have allowed an inadequate policy to stand without any further revisions or clarifications (despite claiming that they were forthcoming), but to actively suspend and/or ban players for "violating" it is shameful.

[freez]

Originally Posted by Hateraid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone wants everything tailored to them now its sickning.

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[Clark]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Corpse camping and not letting players CR was not allowed on RZ. Glad to see its not allowed here.

What the HECK are you talking about. I corpse camped the crap out of people on Rallos Zek for sooo many years!!