Bandwagon Proposal Thread. - Page 5

Alarti0001 · #1 12-31-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA should be Tier A

Build your guild and you will be able to take on BDA with ease in tier B.

Or if you guys want you can make a rotation on tier b's half of the mobs, the onus would be on you guys.

Sinestria · #2 12-31-2013, 03:55 PM

This is a pretty good proposal surprisingly. I think that something more needs to be done with VS though, he is not a gatekeeper to VP and should not be treated as such

Sinestria · #3 12-31-2013, 05:03 PM

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This is a pretty good proposal surprisingly. I think that something more needs to be done with VS though, he is not a gatekeeper to VP and should not be treated as such

Alarti0001 · #4 12-31-2013, 05:05 PM

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VS can be competed at. He is very easy to kill and just requires FTE. CT also has nothing to do with VP.

CT/VS/VP drop top tier loot and are the highest desired targets outside of PD for Tier A raiders.

This is a compromise.... not a get everything you want.

Sinestria · #5 12-31-2013, 05:08 PM

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VS can be competed at. He is very easy to kill and just requires FTE. CT also has nothing to do with VP.

CT/VS/VP drop top tier loot and are the highest desired targets outside of PD for Tier A raiders.

This is a compromise.... not a get everything you want.

A compromise would be "tier A will sit out on x amount of VS and x amount of CT". The compromise is that you get to 100% compete in all Trak kills (continued blocking of VP entry)

uygi · #6 12-31-2013, 05:17 PM

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A compromise would be "tier A will sit out on x amount of VS and x amount of CT". The compromise is that you get to 100% compete in all Trak kills (continued blocking of VP entry)

I said that I think all mobs should at least sometimes... at least every once in a while... follow whatever distribution the Tier B guilds see fit. They would of course be welcome to compete against anyone at any other time as well, as Taken has demonstrated with Inny a lot recently.

Don't forget that there are people that have put in months of effort to earn their spot in line for a rare epic drop, tracking and attending very competitive encounters to earn it. How often do you really expect them to sit idly by while some other guild gets, in relative terms, what amounts to a freebie? I'm not saying the mobs/drops should be totally reserved for Tier A guilds, but don't expect too huge a piece of the pie either.
It's not a very big pie.

Handull · #7 12-31-2013, 05:23 PM

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A compromise would be "tier A will sit out on x amount of VS and x amount of CT". The compromise is that you get to 100% compete in all Trak kills (continued blocking of VP entry)

if fe/ib and tmo sit out on a vs with 96+ hour variance, who do you really think is going to sit there for 4+ days straight? maybe bda will, but most other guilds will spend a few hours there at prime time when a bored member is online. we need to get rid of most (but not all) of variance for smaller guilds to even think its worth it to track a mob for 4+days

BlkCamel · #8 12-31-2013, 05:26 PM

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A compromise would be "tier A will sit out on x amount of VS and x amount of CT". The compromise is that you get to 100% compete in all Trak kills (continued blocking of VP entry)

This proposal is great because it is simple and easy to follow. I understand the above arguments about VP, but it is the highest of raiding in Classic/Kunark. Why not treat it as such? But, if we are going to do this you cannot lock guilds from gaining access to VP.

You must concede some VP Key mobs to Tier B guilds. You have to give them a chance to get keyed and compete, but once they do they are recognized as a top raiding guild when they get a VP kill. 30 days elevated status is not a game-breaker. If they decide they cannot compete they will be right back at Tier B.

I implore everyone to accept this offer. It is simple and practical.

Alarti0001 · #9 12-31-2013, 05:29 PM

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A compromise would be "tier A will sit out on x amount of VS and x amount of CT". The compromise is that you get to 100% compete in all Trak kills (continued blocking of VP entry)

The compromise is a 1000% increase in Mob availability to the casuals.

uygi · #10 12-31-2013, 03:59 PM

I also disagree that killing a VP dragon should be an automatic 30 day bump up. How about only if they kill 2 VP dragons in any 30 days? I don't want there to be a "penalty" for them making an attempt in there. I think IB/TMO/FE having a little outside competition is healthy, imagine we both rush engages or get cross aggro and all end up dead, I'd like to see BDA chastise us by taking a kill.