Game Mechanics: Necro heal recourse incorrectly dispellable

[Nirgon]

You had to vexing or bond the eye to get HP back efficiently, that is why it is valuable. You think every necro in the Velious era was dumb enough on every server not to know you could just dispel it? Heh.

You don't know more than the guy who won the necro botb using the strategy that (won the botb) involved using this line to heal their pets.

You've shot yourself in the foot by mentioning the beads. Rofl.

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's why Stalking Probes/Holgresh Elder Beads were sought after. You'd lich, give people heals, then dispel it.

Make eye of zomm... dispel yourself? What!?


Seriously break down and explain this statement. Zyrino explains it CORRECTLY.

Originally Posted by hijinks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another thing to further illustrate my point: One of the favorite items Necro's were after was the Holgresh Elder Beads, which was a right click Eye of Zomm or some shit like that you could cast on.. for the very purpose of Vexing (or Bonds of Death) this NPC clickly to get your health back from healing your pet, and other people. They would not have been so wanted by necros if Necros could just dispell the DEBUFF Pact of Shadow puts on the necro.

Thx for playing forumquest.

[Potus]

Haha you're so angry. I have the patch message with a date. Working as intended and classic.

[Nirgon]

Your version as presented:
Step 1: summon eye
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Dispel yourself

Anyone reading this knows you are dead forum meat bud. Thx for playin'.

[Supaskillz]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f-MZ2HRHQ

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your version as presented:
Step 1: summon eye
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Dispel yourself

Anyone reading this knows you are dead forum meat bud. Thx for playin'.

You realize that's not what he said, right?

You're liching, you're shadowbonding (which always hits you for at least 1 tick). You dispel the recourse and then you BoD or Vex the eye to make up for the HP loss from your lich (-14 to -28 hp /tick if using demi lich) and the single tick of shadowbond.

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh really? Were you a necro?

No, you're vexing because you've got Lich on and you can't lifetap the raid mobs which resist taps.

His first post didn't make it terribly clear, especially if you're not used to playing a necro, but he did clarify what he meant.


Anyways, continue. I tried searching for evidence one way or the other and couldn't find anything outside a casters realm link where a guy says that you can click-off the recourse (which Potus already posted somewhere in this thread).

[Nirgon]

Ya all of the botb necros that won their servers and competed in finals had no idea you could just click off the recourse. How stupid they all were.

[Freakish]

I see patch notes supporting the fact you could dispel the recourse.
I see hearsay that you could not dispell it, by word of mouth from people who played back then.
Documented vs undocumented.

I'm going with patch notes saying it was dispellable.

[Nirgon]

Would be good to get this fixed next patch. Easy enough to flag the recourse as cannot be dispelled.

From there we can move on to dispel mechanics [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]!

(Cancel magic removing any spell in 1 cast = not classic sirs)

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(Cancel magic removing any spell in 1 cast = not classic sirs)

what is suppose to happen?

[koros]

Nirgon, this could be dispelled. Citing a friend as an absolute authority because he won the necro botb is a ridiculous logical fallacy.

Prior to the "recourse" effects being added, you'd get a flashing icon with the same name as the spell "Bond of death","Pact of Shadow", etc, just doing hp in the opposite direction as it was doing to the target.