Forceful Stallquest

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How about you just kill the damn mob or get out of the way? Seems simple enough.

I support a rule where anybody not on the hate list in the first 15 seconds of the fight will be ported out of zone if they get on the hate list later (unless there's a reset). Would clear up a whole lot of the faggotry that goes on here.

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not even close. I remember when our single officer was pulled into skype with fucking 6-7 tmo members and one GM, and they were all shouting and bitching about how this rule was fair and should be implemented. It only happened a few weeks ago. I'm sure you were there.

HAHAHA, your lies are coming easier !

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except that doesn't really paint the full picture, does it? You were in a guild that billed itself as the top raiding guild, with all kinds of serverwide firsts, but never could finish an expansion first. Always second fiddle to someone. Then you apparently retired at level 75, which coincides with the era of Assent's downward slide into irrelevance. Now you're back, looking to try and attain that glory that you were denied on live.

Assent Completes Depths of Dark Hollow expansion 1/9/2006
Triality Completes Depths of Dark Hollow expansion 4/26/2006

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, maybe that's why your guild is suspended. You dont care to play by the rules. The current rule on trakanon is 2 DA's stall maximum. I can add that for you. 18+18...it's 36 seconds maximum.

that's pretty retarded rule, considering it's not found on any of the rule threads and the previous understanding was stalling was okay if the mob wasn't being kited. Stalling being allowed pushed guilds to rush engage and they would sometimes fail due to not enough logging in quickly enough or they weren't buffed or whatever the fuck. It was pretty damn balanced. The only reason I can see TMO crying about it now is because they are losing consecutive targets, we used to discuss ways to stall longer on rush engages to give us time to get everyone in on Trakanon (when we were going against IB).


Staff need to get their shit together and only allow Sirken to make these new rules and when he does there needs to be an update on the forums. Post it in RnF for a week and update the damn raiding rules thread.

It's retarded that a guild gets suspended over all these hidden rule changes. This is why the raiding scene was such a shitty place years ago when things got heated, rules changed every damn day and the staff just winged it.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Assent Completes Depths of Dark Hollow expansion 1/9/2006
Triality Completes Depths of Dark Hollow expansion 4/26/2006

Doesn't address any of the points I made. Which expansion did Assent finish first serverwide again? I have a theory that when you get enough silver medals, you start considering pooping in socks to get a gold.

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doesn't address any of the points I made. Which expansion did Assent finish first serverwide again? I have a theory that when you get enough silver medals, you start considering pooping in socks to get a gold.

Game Wide, I don't recall finishing an expansion as a first. But many Game wide first boss kills.

Now that I think about it...

Assent finished, OOW, DoN, OOW, and PoR all ahead of Triality...

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that's pretty retarded rule, considering it's not found on any of the rule threads and the previous understanding was stalling was okay if the mob wasn't being kited. Stalling being allowed pushed guilds to rush engage and they would sometimes fail due to not enough logging in quickly enough or they weren't buffed or whatever the fuck. It was pretty damn balanced.

Except the problem is that with the right items, you can stall for several minutes. Certain fights make this harder to do with a single toon, but then you can just use 2-3 to the same effect. Then the game becomes who can learn to stall the best. It's hard to make the raiding game here more retarded, but an indefinite stall rule somehow accomplishes that feat.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Game Wide, I don't recall finishing an expansion as a first. But many Game wide first boss kills.

Now that I think about it...

Assent finished, OOW, DoN, OOW, and PoR all ahead of Triality...

You are so proud of your 2nd place OoW finish that you listed it twice. How adorable. I bet you're really excited for Velious and the chance to finally finish an expansion first. Well, except for those other 600 guilds that have done it on live.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HAHAHA, your lies are coming easier !

I don't lie here Alarti. This is at least the second time you've accused me of lying in the past week or two. I don't have any reason to lie. I won't even call you a liar, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you weren't part of the Skype call, or maybe you didn't know it happened. I know that when the rule was being discussed, we were given a chance to debate it, and one officer and one member were brought into skype with lots of TMO, who had clearly already been there for a while.

Lastly. Stalling is dumb, I don't like it. But when it's within the rules and one guild is doing it, you have to if you're going to compete.

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are so proud of your 2nd place OoW finish that you listed it twice. How adorable. I bet you're really excited for Velious and the chance to finally finish an expansion first. Well, except for those other 600 guilds that have done it on live.

The second "OOW" was meant to be DoDH. A simple typo.

So let me understand this series of events...

1) I quote a rule created by GMs about a Trakanon stall limit
2) I instantly become the asshole
3) Orruar and Friends ignorantly attack me
4) Orruar Is still salty his guild couldn't hack it almost 10 year ago.
5) Creates false claims about failures on Maelin
6) Deflects because he was wrong