Solutions to the Tunnel Trainer.

[Allizia]

Haha <3

You have slain Noob!

[Aarone]

Overcast shows much wisdom. Must be because of the Power Armor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Overcast]

Originally Posted by Aarone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Overcast shows much wisdom. Must be because of the Power Armor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hehe

[Jeice]

You could always do what we did in classic and expected a train... No need to do anything about this. It's part of the game.

[Overcast]

Originally Posted by Jeice [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could always do what we did in classic and expected a train... No need to do anything about this. It's part of the game.

Exactly!

Even if the number of trainers here tripled - it would still be 70% less idiocy than WoW has, lol


Here's the brilliant thing about EQ - as compared to other MMOs.
Other MMO's don't require much patience, persistence, or tenacity - EQ requires a LOT. It challenges you in ways that 'easy' MMOs won't.

Take it in stride - heck, people doing stupid crap - training you, etc, etc - kill stealing - has MORE THAN ONCE in this game built lasting relationships between those seemingly on the 'short end of the stick'. Heck it's even resulted in lasting guild alliances.

Just dealing with various situations EQ will toss as you, can build friendships, patience, and persistence. I had a long-time friend on EQLive - we just ended up in a PUG - ended up dealing with some idiots - and then hung out for quite some time in game - because of that 'bad' situation.

See - sometimes - on the surface when a situation looks 'bad' - you need to LOOK DEEPER, many people miss the opportunity it presents.

Often - just your own viewpoint can trump just about anything life tosses at you.

[Overcast]

To sum that up: a person's character is not ever built by convenience and complacency - it's built with strife and challenge.

We wanted a challenge - we got it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Elissa]

For those of you saying "Don't change it!" a few things are obvious:

1. You are not dying to this every day.

2. You forget that on Live serial-training was a bannable offense.

3. You misunderstand the concept of "wanting EQ to be hard." The game should be and is hard for various reasons, but scrubs training you repeatedly, on purpose, should not be one of them. I have no problem with accidents, noobs not calling a train, etc. I do have a significant problem with momentarily going AFK to pull boiling water off the stove, for example, and coming back dead and then grudgingly paying for a rez only to find myself getting killed again the MOMENT I rez. That's not "hard," that's retarded.

EC is and should continue to be one of the more enjoyable aspects of the game. However, that does not include scrubs purposely training Rinna/Slate repeatedly with impunity.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Elissa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. You are not dying to this every day.

Maybe because they figured out a way to avoid it. Go ahead, argue "there's no way to avoid being killed by people training NPCs."

Originally Posted by Elissa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2. You forget that on Live serial-training was a bannable offense.

Sure, and it was enforced with the same lackluster they enforced many other things. It's true that your CD Key was tied to your account, but without data on how often and how many people they actually banned, it's difficult to say if this is a valid point.

Originally Posted by Elissa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3. You misunderstand the concept of "wanting EQ to be hard." The game should be and is hard for various reasons, but scrubs training you repeatedly, on purpose, should not be one of them. I have no problem with accidents, noobs not calling a train, etc. I do have a significant problem with momentarily going AFK to pull boiling water off the stove, for example, and coming back dead and then grudgingly paying for a rez only to find myself getting killed again the MOMENT I rez. That's not "hard," that's retarded.

No, it's hard. When dealing with individuals, you have to remember that there are really only two things to consider - what a man can't do, and what a man can do. They can train you. Therefore, you need to utilize your "can" and figure out a way to avoid it. I frequently see evil-types hiding in corners, being more alert than others, FD'ing off to the side (if they're necro/sk), or only visiting the EC Tunnel when they have a sale to make, not sitting there for hours on end like dodos. Human/goodie alts are fine for that.

My question is this - why are you at the EC Tunnel? How long do you stay there? Why do other evil people who actually sit at the EC tunnel for long periods of time (who aren't necros or SKs) apparently find ways to deal with it which are somehow impossible for you?

Originally Posted by Elissa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EC is and should continue to be one of the more enjoyable aspects of the game. However, that does not include scrubs purposely training Rinna/Slate repeatedly with impunity.

And it's not too hard to figure out a way to deal with it. You'll just have to do that.

If the GM's nerf Slate/Rinna or something similar which negates the problem, great - but at least until then, you should try to cope (which you claim is impossible).

[mistersuits]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My question is this - why are you at the EC Tunnel? How long do you stay there? Why do other evil people who actually sit at the EC tunnel for long periods of time (who aren't necros or SKs) apparently find ways to deal with it which are somehow impossible for you?

They're probably in EC Tunnel because that's explicitly what the GMs wanted when they disabled global chat channels... i.e. a community to bloom out of the necessity for trade? Seems like if you're going to force your playerbase somewhere these kinds of training exploits should be sorted out.

[Ihealyou]

Originally Posted by mistersuits [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're probably in EC Tunnel because that's explicitly what the GMs wanted ...

Yes, you're right where they want you. Muhahahaha