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Old 12-09-2013, 07:08 PM
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Actually, r00t, YOU didn't read this new study. There's not a single experiment in the paper. No data, no evidence, just speculation and mathematical descriptions.

"So far we have no conclusive evidence that this is going on," says Giovanni Amelino-Camelia, a physicist at the Sapienza University of Rome who has researched the possibility of such signals.
--from that Scientific American article you linked

r00t, this isn't religion. It's actual inconsequential how the universe began; what's important is that we figure it out. Our understanding and manipulation of nature is what makes us human. Scientists backpedal all the time as old data is reinterpreted or new data is collected. Sometimes it takes a while for someone to have a really great idea.
You just don't get it, do you?

no big bang --> root was right about no big bang --> root is right about there being a bearded man in the sky --> we all get an afterlife --> we don't need to learn to deal with mortality in a mature way --> we can keep pretending like death is only an illusion
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:24 PM
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hawking already covered this in a paper, a very short paper.

basically, god is inconsequential as the above poster said.

observations must match with results... usually math observations.

if two observations match results, then either can be used.

the observation that god exists BASED on what evidence is put forward is not matching the observations, so you need to pick on.

ill go with science for this one.
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:08 PM
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r00t needs to get better sources for his troll material.
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:20 PM
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r00t needs a punch in the fukin eye
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:31 PM
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r00t needs a punch in the fukin eye
Sharkesha can do it.
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:40 PM
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Einstein wasn't bad at math. You are dumb.

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Old 12-09-2013, 09:15 PM
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There is no theory of "where the universe came from." No scientist has one single thing to say about that question. All science does is extrapolate from observed regularities backwards ("the past") and forwards ("the future") in a causal chain.

What comes before that extrapolated causal chain, or after it, is by definition unknowable, since it involves data that cannot be derived from that causal chain, by definition.

"Where did the universe come from?" is not a scientific question. Just like "What happens after the universe?" is.

There never will be a scientific theory of why any of this exists. Just theories on how it exists given that it exists. But its existence is a given beyond which we have no information.

If you prefer, you can think Vishnu created it. Or, me. Why not me? How do you know I didn't create the universe? You cannot disprove it. Therefore, "Sadre created the universe" should be taught in our public schools, since it cannot be disproved that I may have.
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:31 PM
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I don't understand where the hate against the big bang is coming from. Everything was condensed, not singular. Everything moving away from everything else, causing the red shift (Doppler effect) is because* the expansion started everywhere. Everywhere is the center of the universe because it has no boundaries. No boundaries= no center= no singularity.
This singularity is sometimes called "the Big Bang",[19]
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