Hard Coded Vs Soft Coded Teams Discussion

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Zade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Try to keep the convo to actual arguments and not attacks on guilds or other subjects not retaining to OP, please.

Elderan, I feel like you want a soft code hard coded. Its either one or the other. Either its hard coded and you have to work with what you pick for your team if you want your guild to stay intact, or you choose soft coded.

No, soft coded teams would be terrible. It would allow extreme greifing in pvp.

What I do want is when/if the merge happens and it goes from red to teams then I want my friends not be split up.

Lets be honest this server is just to try and break Nihilum up to allow more guilds into high in content. The entire idea is flawed as one high end guild will dominate teams 99 as well.

All I want is for promises to be kept. If the merge happens allow red people to choose their team or offer race/class changes.

[Alecta]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There HAS to be a way people on red can choose their team no matter race/class. You CANNOT split up guilds.

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also if you would finish with the fixes to red, stop talking about teams 99 and add velious red will average 350 a night and teams 99 wont be needed.

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Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The second option for the merge is to allow for race/class changes on the merge...

The race change is possible, but there's a lot to consider with that (factions, base stats, racial abilities.)

I don't see class changes happening, even if your desired team doesnt have your class.

[Alecta]

Originally Posted by Giovanni [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, make legit zone control maps.

Been discussed. I don't think we will provide a leaderboard, but I would like to provide a feed for those who want to create their own statistics.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Alecta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The race change is possible, but there's a lot to consider with that (factions, base stats, racial abilities.)

I don't see class changes happening, even if your desired team doesnt have your class.

Why is everyone so against just allowing the choice of team a/b/c at character creation?

This solves so many issues.

[s1ckness]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, soft coded teams would be terrible. It would allow extreme greifing in pvp.

What I do want is when/if the merge happens and it goes from red to teams then I want my friends not be split up.

Lets be honest this server is just to try and break Nihilum up to allow more guilds into high in content. The entire idea is flawed as one high end guild will dominate teams 99 as well.

All I want is for promises to be kept. If the merge happens allow red people to choose their team or offer race/class changes.

i agree with soft code would be terrible.

i dont think this server to try and break nihilum up, i do think its is to bring more competition to red99

but it is to help bring more people to the server, including all the EQmac players.

Nihilums problem is that they never stop recruiting, not saying its a bad idea but if u want pvp on the server, u gotta learn to say NO sometimes. if u want 150 people in TOV with you on a 200 population server, u should just go play blue99 .

vztz had good competition becuasse the best guild on the server did not just recruite every body they could find... no one wanted to farm uncontested dragons.

make as many vztz jokes as you want but the population was normally over 300 with maybe 50-100 2boxing and was 3 or 4 guilds always fighting over content.

[Zade]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lets be honest this server is just to try and break Nihilum up to allow more guilds into high in content. The entire idea is flawed as one high end guild will dominate teams 99 as well.

I assure you, the teams server is not being created with any one guild in mind. I am sure that if Nihilum feels like this teams server is solely built to destroy them, they wont play on it.

Teams99 will happen whether or not Nihilum plays on it or not. Its your choice to make supportive arguments on why you prefer certain rules/codes over others, not to QQ about poor nilly. Im sure you will all be fine either way.

[Zade]

Also, again, stay on topic. Non-related subject matters will be deleted.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Zade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I assure you, the teams server is not being created with any one guild in mind. I am sure that if Nihilum feels like this teams server is solely built to destroy them, they wont play on it.

Teams99 will happen whether or not Nihilum plays on it or not. Its your choice to make supportive arguments on why you prefer certain rules/codes over others, not to QQ about poor nilly. Im sure you will all be fine either way.

My comment about how hard coded teams are needed is only common sense.

I only care about teams99 because of the potential merge. I care about red99. I would rather never have to deal with team99 but you guys have pretty much thrown it into my face at this point forcing me to take notice of it.

Since teams99 effects red99 you have to take the potential merge into account when setting teams.

Allow the player to choose team a/b/c on character creation... Its so simple.

[Dullah]

Teams ruleset not even an issue after the merge because by then people will understand why FFA is the better ruleset.

With velious on red, it will become the dominant server soon as classic content gets stale on teams after the dominant guild is able to go FFA (using 3 50s in each team) to put a stranglehold on the box (this is what we will do).

Lets focus on how to make the servers we have better rather than catering to the defeated masses and their dreams of hurting red by pushing for a new server.

[Colgate]

don't agree with teams in general but hardcoded teams will provide far less of a headache for everyone involved

newer people will want teams, not free for all with a twist

needs to be actual teams too, not just team A team B team C

the novelty of teams lies in that people feel like they're different from the other side