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Old 09-07-2013, 08:53 PM
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:25 AM
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If you think 'One guild dominating most of the content' isn't classic, then your server was an exception.
Brell was exception. Any others? Cause i know other servers had rotations too.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:55 AM
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Brell was exception. Any others? Cause i know other servers had rotations too.
Some servers had rotations. Some did not.

P99 is one of the ones that does not. It fits within the "classic experience" in that regard.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:06 PM
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Some servers had rotations. Some did not.

P99 is one of the ones that does not. It fits within the "classic experience" in that regard.
i was responding to skipdog who said that non drama servers were exception. was just trying to get list of servers that had rotations to prove they werent a exception. Yes i gave up on getting a rotation a long time ago cause i realize that the carnage that is the p99 raiding scene is what the dev's want or else they would have instituted it since they have no issues doing other non classic mechanics to screw with the raid scene.
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:51 AM
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If you think 'One guild dominating most of the content' isn't classic, then your server was an exception.
I considered before posting this as to how viable giving this information would be (and of course I have no proof to back up the claim, so take it with as large a grain of salt as you deem permissible), but...

I lead the top raid guild (of it's time) on my prime server of Morell Thule, and we had created and honored, a raid rotation.

We got more content because the rotation had set rules as to how you got on it for given mobs and how often you could access them, but we never had to camp characters and wait for repops, thus not having fun.

And guilds not quite as "domineering?" as ours still got access to raid content.

Take that knowledge what you will. If you believe me, I just hope it goes to clarify the at least partial contradiction in the aforementioned argument.
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:59 AM
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I considered before posting this as to how viable giving this information would be (and of course I have no proof to back up the claim, so take it with as large a grain of salt as you deem permissible), but...

I lead the top raid guild (of it's time) on my prime server of Morell Thule, and we had created and honored, a raid rotation.

We got more content because the rotation had set rules as to how you got on it for given mobs and how often you could access them, but we never had to camp characters and wait for repops, thus not having fun.

And guilds not quite as "domineering?" as ours still got access to raid content.

Take that knowledge what you will. If you believe me, I just hope it goes to clarify the at least partial contradiction in the aforementioned argument.
Prexus was similar in that it had 3 or 4 high end guilds through kunark. Then a group of dirt bags formed a guild called Stasis and they fucked the rotation up in velious. Following that though the servers top guilds continued to respect and even work together at times. Server first tormax kill was an open invite to anyone who wanted to come, gms even broadcast it. P99 is nothing like live in terms of raiding.


The raiding on live was more competitive yet friendly. Following the breakdown of the rotation on prexus the 3 to 4 high end guilds had an agreement that tje first guild in position to pull and kill a mob was given the first shot. Even on mobs like CT/inny...first guild in zone clearing had first shot at the mob. Here if inny/ct pops TMO zones in and disrupts any raids going on because they feel this is appropriate. This is why guilds hate eachother and there is so much drama here, the rules support bad blood between guilds and do nothing to encourage competition.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:51 AM
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1. Take away variance
2. Make the raid zone FFA pvp 30 minutes before and after a boss spawns.
3. If your guild loses in pvp you have to leave zone for an hour

Only way to fix it imo.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:59 AM
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1. Take away variance
2. Make the raid zone FFA pvp 30 minutes before and after a boss spawns.
3. If your guild loses in pvp you have to leave zone for an hour

Only way to fix it imo.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:06 PM
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Dang tecmos didn't know we all didn't get our own opinion. Ill make sure to check with you before posting anything else in the future.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:42 PM
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Dang tecmos didn't know we all didn't get our own opinion. Ill make sure to check with you before posting anything else in the future.
Don't mistake me laughing in derision at your idiotic opinion as me saying that you aren't entitled to an idiotic opinion.

Seriously. People can't agree to do a rotation. Why do you think that people could agree who wins some hour of FFA PvP? Why do you think that anyone would agree to leave the zone after that hour of FFA PvP? Etc.
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