How to enable Luclin Graphics

[dallammarr]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...you missed the best part of the game and need to re-live it like how it was ment to be.

The only problem I have with this statement is its flawed when talking about graphics updates on a game and "how it was supposed to be" We all know that at the time of Luclin is when SOE bought out Verant and soon after Mcquaid left and all so thats when EQ became an abomination. But I dont attribute that to the graphics. I attribute that to many of the other BS implementations that SOE put in the game. Some were nice but most were crap and turned EQ into something else.

For all we know, had Verant remained at the helm of EQ, the graphics probably would have still been updated to keep up with the competition from other games comming out with better graphics. Ill admit that many of the Luclin models were crap and could have been done better. Maybe some people depise the Luclin models because it reminds them of when EQ started its downcline. But i just dont agree with saying that the 10 year old models were the way it was always suppose to be. Itd a better argument to say if you really want the Classic EQ expirience (or as close as possible) then use the bad textures and old models.

Personally I feel people should graphically be able to view the game however they want. I am the type of person who will do something for a while for the sake of nostalgia but then later I may want to use upgraded models/textures for a better visual expirience. I like the option to switch depending on my mood and I dont feel I or anyone else for that matter should be told to GTFO because they may feel this way. Yes I bought and played the game from august of 1999 - feb 2007 with many breaks after luclin and so on was launched. Many of us have. Thats probably why the nostalgia wears off here and there and we would like options. Just adding my 2cp.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by dallammarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only problem I have with this statement is its flawed when talking about graphics updates on a game and "how it was supposed to be" We all know that at the time of Luclin is when SOE bought out Verant and soon after Mcquaid left and all so thats when EQ became an abomination. But I dont attribute that to the graphics. I attribute that to many of the other BS implementations that SOE put in the game. Some were nice but most were crap and turned EQ into something else.

For all we know, had Verant remained at the helm of EQ, the graphics probably would have still been updated to keep up with the competition from other games comming out with better graphics. Ill admit that many of the Luclin models were crap and could have been done better. Maybe some people depise the Luclin models because it reminds them of when EQ started its downcline. But i just dont agree with saying that the 10 year old models were the way it was always suppose to be. Ite a better argument to say if you really want the Classic EQ expirience (or as close as possible) then use the bad textures and old models.

Personally I feel people should graphically be able to view the game however they want. I am the type of person who will do something for a while for the sake of nostalgia but then later I may want to use upgraded models/textures for a better visual expirience. I like the option to switch depending on my mood and I dont feel I or anyone else for that matter should be told to GTFO because they may feel this way. Yes I bought and played the game from august of 1999 - feb 2007 with many breaks after luclin and so on was launched. Many of us have. Thats probably why the nostalgia wears off here and there and we would like options. Just adding my 2cp.

Im not saying how it was meant to be on live, Im saying how P99 was meant to be played, with a classic, nostalgic feeling.

[legendbyname]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just dont understand why people want to play with "updated" graphics. If you want updated graphics go play live. This is a classic server built on nostalgia. Play it like you played it in 1999 or gtfo. If you didnt play in 1999 and claim to not have started till post luclin and new models are all you know then im sorry, you missed the best part of the game and need to re-live it like how it was ment to be.

Character models, UI's, and textures have nothing to do with the nostalgia of playing EQ classic for me. Cosmetic changes have no impact on gameplay, but instead just make it easier on my eyes. I can still enjoy classic everquest playing in 1920x1080, with two monitors, some updated graphics, and a much faster internet connection. Did you add a dial-up line to your computer to keep it "classic" too?

Nobody is asking to break any game mechanics, quests, balancing, etc. If it was just a simple "flip the switch" option to get Luclin models added I'd be all for it, but since it will require the devs to do some work I understand why there's no use adding them in (for the Titanium client at least).

In some cases the Luclin models are pretty bad I'll admit, but I still prefer them over the original Ogre/Troll models.

[soup]

Originally Posted by legendbyname [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Character models, UI's, and textures have nothing to do with the nostalgia of playing EQ classic for me. Cosmetic changes have no impact on gameplay, but instead just make it easier on my eyes. I can still enjoy classic everquest playing in 1920x1080, with two monitors, some updated graphics, and a much faster internet connection. Did you add a dial-up line to your computer to keep it "classic" too?

Gotta agree 100%. People act like if there's ANYTHING at all you're fine with not being classic, then you should just go play on live, which is nothing at all like classic EQ. It's such a ridiculous false dichotomy, the whole ALL CLASSIC 100% OR GO PLAY LIVE crap people throw around.

[Resheph]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just dont understand why people want to play with "updated" graphics. If you want updated graphics go play live. This is a classic server built on nostalgia. Play it like you played it in 1999 or gtfo. If you didnt play in 1999 and claim to not have started till post luclin and new models are all you know then im sorry, you missed the best part of the game and need to re-live it like how it was ment to be.

Some of us want to play for the mechanics and the people, not the graphics. I started playing pre-Kunark and played for 5 and a half years. There has never been another MMO that was as challenging as EQ1, period (except maybe EVE). The fact you can faceroll PvE most of these newer MMOs, talk smack and get away with is (remember EQ blacklists?) and die with almost 0 penalty gets on my nerves

Back in 1999 the graphics were great. These days, they're terrible. In fact, if what I'm reading is correct, SoE is writing EQ Next with the original mechanics, updated graphics and some of the extras present in newer MMOs.

You may like the original bad graphics, and are entitled to play with them. Some of us are not playing specifically because of those graphics. If a way to update the models is available then it's in everyone's benefit to allow it. The ability to choose will yield more players.

Unless, of course, you're one of the elitist players I try to hard to avoid and feel the need to dictate how others should play, sub or not

[soup]

I can't believe people care what models other people use.

I hate the Luclin models, but I want to activate them just to spite the people who have a problem with them. Well, except that they would never have any clue I'm using the Luclin models so it would be just as pointless as caring what models people use.

[guineapig]

I replaced all the original models with pokemon models. It took forever but now every time I log into the game I laugh at how all of you look.

[Qaedain]

This is awesome! Can't wait to try it when I get home!

[firesyde424]

Relax folks... seriously. I don't know why people get so passionate over this. More than anything, my work on this was for a friend of mine who would play on P99 except he can't stand the old world models. Thats his loss for not being able to see past that and find the gameplay that we both miss from our early days in EQ.

However, I like the luclin models better too, excluding the troll and ogre models of course. So, with some free time, I spent a bit of effort researching and working this out.

I knew it would be a pandora's box. Hell, I was half expecting to be banned for posting it. But whatever happens, just let people play this in the way they found when they first started EQ. Thats the point. Whether it was gameplay, or the world of Norrath, or the game lore, whatever it was that drew you to EQ in the first place, play the game that way as best you can. Otherwise, you are just screwing yourself because the rest of us are going to keep on playing the game we remember and loved.

[Reiker]

I wouldn't mind the Luclin models so much if they weren't the worst models in any game ever. I'd prefer the pre-beta 5 polygon count models tbh.