Sirken so wise, except with Red

[Sektor]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's more a combination of them being 70% of the server, their players generally having more free time, and them treating the game like it's a job (i.e. things like buying up 55 mages for CoTH bots come Velious 5 months in advance, being grouped with porters/ fully buffed for raid content within 5-7 minutes of logging in, etc etc.)

tl;dr they have decisiveness, strong coordination/ efficiency (something you can't blame them for).

what you can blame them for is by doing so they make, ultimately, a predictable server with a predictable future -- they will always be 70% of the server because 70% of players want the best loot, and that sentiment will always outweigh the desire to be an underdog and topple the big guys. basically another blue server, and people in that guild seem to enjoy it. be nice if it changed, though.

Well said, with 1 little added point to this. When Velious comes out, once the gear gap closes between members of nilly in full tunare/ntov/sleeprs loot vs players in 80% kunark, plane of fear/hate armor. The server will be just nilly, and well people will get bored and quit. Nilly will basically kill itself due to boredem. Then red99 will die, blue99 will gain some members and get a little bigger.

I personally didn't want this merge to happen, but this isn't about me, if you can't see the big picture then you're delusional.

[Malevz]

Another post for variance? So the plan is:

-train in VP
-make excuses
-cry for a wipe
-cry for variance that wouldn't change anything except bore a few nihilum off server
-trying to push back spawn timers to 4-5am

The 'opposition' will do anything but actually pvp for mobs. Could it be because so many of their bluebie players quit when forced to pvp? So very, very sad. If you don't want pvp, and want to see mobs pushed til Nihilum sleeps, why not just go to blue? You'll be safe there.

[Gustoo]

Red 99 just needs item loot so there is reason to make lowbie twinks to do battle with high stakes.

And a reason to literally hunt players for loot rather than just pride. No one has enough pride at stake in p99 to really do what it takes to achieve victory. I'm not going to put leveling up on hold to get together a few level 20's ish friends to try to gank a level 20+ sk in unrest if its just to teleport him back to Gfay zone line. I will just do my level 20-40 grind somewhere else.

You guys are laughs. Without item loot PVP is a slight motivation for getting high level and getting good gear, and a slightly exciting element of the game, but for the person who knows they are weaker than their opponent the only good strategy is to avoid battle to hurry up and get some levels.

Item loot is crucial to making PVP have a point. I can solo level 1-50 on almost any character wearing full banded, or full cloth + whatever random dropped + int + mana stuff that is seriously worth like 50pp a piece, no problem. For standard lowbies, item loot offers absolutely no disadvantage. It does offer the strong incentive to take out twinks and try to steal their excellent gear.

+ it gives people a reason to wear random funky no drop gear like "shin" armor from lguk and stuff.

P.S. the reason nihilum keeps being the strongest guild is because anyone dedicated enough to beating them will choose to just join them. If they stopped accepting skilled and dedicated players, than they would have competition, but most people that just want loot opportunities will simply join Nihilum. There is no reason to compete for most players and when people see all of the /mad going on in threads like this it makes it clear that other guilds don't have the dedication needed to take these mobs from nihilum. It just takes serious serious serious butt hours and the people willing to put those hours in just join the team that will give them loot rather than a lot of rants.

[Terpuntine]

A lot of you underestimate the numbers its going to take to kill a major named in velious.. You are all bitching about 30 right now, expect around 60 come velious. And even at 60 or so players its not a zerg its a necessity if any one guild intends on killing anything of significance.

Aside from a few vp pieces and epics, kunark gear in a nutshell is pretty bad. Its more than possible to compete against a VP geared guild with drops available to the more casual of players. It just takes some organization and skill.

Nihilum isnt doing anything that I myself or anyone else wouldnt do. If the shoe was on the other foot are you all saying you would just allow the potential competition to have raid mobs? Or that you would split your guild in two for the betterment of the server? If you answered yes to those questions then you are delusional.

If people really want to compete against nihilum like they say they do then they will stop throwing temper tantrums and rage logging over not getting a raid boss. Instead they should learn from the mistake made and work on strengthening numbers and getting more efficient at mobilizing for a raid so they can try again next week. As it stands right now you cant even attempt to compete because with one loss half of you whine and rage quit.

[Syft]

Originally Posted by Malevz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another post for variance? So the plan is:

-train in VP
-make excuses
-cry for a wipe
-cry for variance that wouldn't change anything except bore a few nihilum off server
-trying to push back spawn timers to 4-5am

The 'opposition' will do anything but actually pvp for mobs. Could it be because so many of their bluebie players quit when forced to pvp? So very, very sad. If you don't want pvp, and want to see mobs pushed til Nihilum sleeps, why not just go to blue? You'll be safe there.

LOL soooo were going to pretend that a horde of traks teeth aren't blown everytime there's a large scale fight with Nihilium.

And were also gonna pretend that this is evenly balanced pvp where one guild doesn't have more numbers, more help from the powers that be, more cheats being used, and there also the only ones with VP gear lol.

Any other server in the world and people would consider the gear difference and applaud the opposition, but here we play pretend.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Terpuntine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of you underestimate the numbers its going to take to kill a major named in velious.. You are all bitching about 30 right now, expect around 60 come velious. And even at 60 or so players its not a zerg its a necessity if any one guild intends on killing anything of significance.

Aside from a few vp pieces and epics, kunark gear in a nutshell is pretty bad. Its more than possible to compete against a VP geared guild with drops available to the more casual of players. It just takes some organization and skill.

Nihilum isnt doing anything that I myself or anyone else wouldnt do. If the shoe was on the other foot are you all saying you would just allow the potential competition to have raid mobs? Or that you would split your guild in two for the betterment of the server? If you answered yes to those questions then you are delusional.

If people really want to compete against nihilum like they say they do then they will stop throwing temper tantrums and rage logging over not getting a raid boss. Instead they should learn from the mistake made and work on strengthening numbers and getting more efficient at mobilizing for a raid so they can try again next week. As it stands right now you cant even attempt to compete because with one loss half of you whine and rage quit.

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[Syft]

Originally Posted by Littlegyno 9.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

kill trakanon for his teeth maybe?

And when guys have a 1000 of them in the bank from farming a dead server for over a year and are waiting at trak each time he spawns with your fingers on the button lol always mobilized way ahead of time thx to an MIRC message from a guy who truly know when he spawns LMFAO!

Like I said you want to play pretend!

How bad do you have to be to outgear and out number the opposition and still NEED to blow trak's teeth to win! It's like blowing a conflag wand on a guy 10 lvls lower than you and calling yourself the man for winning despite all odds.

[Something'Witty]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Agree

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Malevz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another post for variance? So the plan is:

-train in VP
-make excuses
-cry for a wipe
-cry for variance that wouldn't change anything except bore a few nihilum off server
-trying to push back spawn timers to 4-5am

The 'opposition' will do anything but actually pvp for mobs. Could it be because so many of their bluebie players quit when forced to pvp? So very, very sad. If you don't want pvp, and want to see mobs pushed til Nihilum sleeps, why not just go to blue? You'll be safe there.

talking about crying is hysterical coming from you considering you were the biggest crybaby in nihilum back when you guys were losing almost every mass pvp fight

i think everyone here remembers how you'd be the only guy online trying to get your corpse 5 hours after losing a big battle despite dying half a dozen times to kringe

[Silent]

Didn't read past first page, But you said "so Classic can bank some horn of wars"? There is PLENTY of dragon loot a majority of the guild still needs, We don't bank every single piece of dragon loot then have a auction once a month for bank cleanouts. Our members would actually use the items, They wouldn't go to a bank char to sit and be sold. You guys have no reason to kill them other then to gather more dragon loot to sell. But you are all picky about what you sell, You don't want to allow any wizard epics or possible fight changing items out on the market. You took a mage staff epic MQ for 3 fungi tunics which was an obvious deal since we had them available. But you knew the value of it due to the coming invis pull nerf that hit 2 weeks after making the trade a substantial win.

But anyway, Like the others said...On non raid day/trak spawns, You see the same dozen or so nihilum members on only. The rest only login for respawns.