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Old 06-30-2013, 02:59 PM
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You can be at a camp and not respond to someone, as long as you are clearing the placeholder/camp. It's defined in the rules.

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Fast forward 5.5 hours and I notice that Whukes is back. So I /wave to him but got no response, figuring he was making breakfast or something. So I continue watching shitty cartoons on TV until I do indeed hear the ominous sounds of spell casting going on (I'm also surprised that Hadden didn't attack me as I am an iksar and was standing practically ontop of him).
AFK camping is camping with your pet killing stuff for you while you're afk.

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Whukes was there
Haden Spawned: Sun Jun 30, 2013; 07:51:23
Whukes engaged 07:51:30* Used enstill, 2 second cast time* (I know his logs say differently, this is why we never accept player logs for any petitions)
Katanagatari engaged 07:51:36 ( a full 7 seconds or so after Whukes did)

Conclusion of what the logs show? Katanagatari either helping or trying to ks Whukes, due to the time difference of spawn time/engagement time.

Whukes walks away with earring.
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:05 PM
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You can be at a camp and not respond to someone, as long as you are clearing the placeholder/camp. It's defined in the rules.



AFK camping is camping with your pet killing stuff for you while you're afk.

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Whukes was there
Haden Spawned: Sun Jun 30, 2013; 07:51:23
Whukes engaged 07:51:30* Used enstill, 2 second cast time* (I know his logs say differently, this is why we never accept player logs for any petitions)
Katanagatari engaged 07:51:36 ( a full 7 seconds or so after Whukes did)

Conclusion of what the logs show? Katanagatari either helping or trying to ks Whukes, due to the time difference of spawn time/engagement time.

Whukes walks away with earring.
Do your logs show Kata being in the zone for 6 hours while Whukes was only logged in for a half hour? Wouldn't that show that Kata was camping whereas Whukes just timed the spawn and showed up for the kill?

I once had a GM rule against my confirmed (by GM logs) FTE and award loot to another player, I assume this is because of a subjective analysis that the other player was "camping" the mob and I had just recently zoned in and found him up.
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:09 PM
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Whukes walks away with earring.
Cheers ambro!

I hope the rest of you can get off your high horse and apologize to whukes now.

The mangnome did nothing wrong but since the op throws out an accusation the community is ready to lynch him..

Since ambro's logs show differently are all of you whukes haters going to switch sides and start bashing the op for being a kser? laughable....
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:11 PM
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Haden Spawned: Sun Jun 30, 2013; 07:51:23
Whukes engaged 07:51:30* Used enstill, 2 second cast time* (I know his logs say differently, this is why we never accept player logs for any petitions)
Katanagatari engaged 07:51:36 ( a full 7 seconds or so after Whukes did)

Conclusion of what the logs show? Katanagatari either helping or trying to ks Whukes, due to the time difference of spawn time/engagement time.

Whukes walks away with earring.
So since Katan waited 7 seconds to engage he forfeited his camp? Serious question.
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
You can be at a camp and not respond to someone, as long as you are clearing the placeholder/camp. It's defined in the rules.

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Whukes was there
Haden Spawned: Sun Jun 30, 2013; 07:51:23
Whukes engaged 07:51:30* Used enstill, 2 second cast time* (I know his logs say differently, this is why we never accept player logs for any petitions)
Katanagatari engaged 07:51:36 ( a full 7 seconds or so after Whukes did)
I see 13 seconds between my engagement of Hadden and Hadden's spawn. Thanks for looking into this Ambrotos it is very appreciated and enlightening.
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:40 PM
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Old 06-30-2013, 02:32 PM
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Watching cartoons while sitting at your computer is not afk camping? As I was at my keyboard.. while watching cartoons.... But anyway this is besides the point. Regardless of the outcome I said my piece and the server has been informed on this incident. That's all I wanted to accomplish in this thread.
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Old 06-30-2013, 02:54 PM
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Watching cartoons while sitting at your computer is not afk camping? As I was at my keyboard.. while watching cartoons.... But anyway this is besides the point. Regardless of the outcome I said my piece and the server has been informed on this incident. That's all I wanted to accomplish in this thread.
Did you make an attempt to engage the mob when he popped? You said the only reason you looked over from your cartoons is because you heard casting. AFAIK there's no hard server rule on the amount of time a passerby needs to give you to engage a freshly popped mob that you are camping. It's going to be subjective and up to the GM if they choose to reimburse you but the facts are: he was a dirtbag and you were asleep at the wheel.
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Old 06-30-2013, 02:51 PM
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I have gotten more tells and group offers because of this thread then I have the entire time I have played P99.

Flamewraith, I sent you a tell in game, but you really need to get over to EC. There have been 2 scammers called out in shout and we really need a detective in zone ASAP.
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Old 06-30-2013, 02:52 PM
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I have gotten more tells and group offers because of this thread then I have the entire time I have played P99.

Flamewraith, I sent you a tell in game, but you really need to get over to EC. There have been 2 scammers called out in shout and we really need a detective in zone ASAP.
Added you to ignore as soon as you messaged me. I have a child sister and that's all the elementary school immaturity I need. Also I don't associate with low lifes. You qualify as a low life.
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