Vanguard: Saga of Heroes restrictions removed on F2P

[stormlord]

I want to feel good about Vanguard.

Most of the big MMO's have similar policies. That's why I can't. They're all business. They will tell you they love you like a woman does, but then they're off frolicking with some other guy.

Maybe it's a good game. I know some like it. But, honestly, I've tasted the waters of modern mainstream MMORPG gaming and they're bitter. I can only be me, I can't be someone else.

[Sularus Oth Mithas]

Originally Posted by stormlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seeing how the benefit of a subscription is basically fast experience, and based on what I've read in the forums, I can see nothing has changed.

Faster = Better is still the prevailing wisdom in modern mainstream mmorpgs.

I'd rather see them limit playtime to 5 hours per week for free accounts or something like that. That way you can try the game without feature restrictions and the goal of subscribing isn't to level up faster but to be able to play more.

If a game is interesting enough, speed of leveling is the last thing that matters. I played GW2 for about 6 months and I had so much fun trying out different races and classes and exploring zones that it took me almost 3 months before I had an 80. It doesn't get any easier than GW2 for leveling and it took me that long.

5 hours a week isn't worth the download, the whole point is to get people in and if that was the case I would not be downloading it. If I really enjoy it I might sub later but at least I can give it an honest go and not have to pay to try unlock a class or some other BS like EQ2 does.

Looking forward to trying this bad boy out.

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by Sularus Oth Mithas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a game is interesting enough, speed of leveling is the last thing that matters. I played GW2 for about 6 months and I had so much fun trying out different races and classes and exploring zones that it took me almost 3 months before I had an 80. It doesn't get any easier than GW2 for leveling and it took me that long.

5 hours a week isn't worth the download, the whole point is to get people in and if that was the case I would not be downloading it. If I really enjoy it I might sub later but at least I can give it an honest go and not have to pay to try unlock a class or some other BS like EQ2 does.

Looking forward to trying this bad boy out.

You want to download it so you can play it as long as you want.

I don't believe games should be free, but neither do I like feature restrictions. That's why I suggest a limit on playtime per week. It gives you a chance to try some things and is simpler than the F2P cash shops that're so popular. What's so good about them? They're disgusting. Advertising and bling bling.

There's no value in faster experience gain to me. That's superficial. Value is content and challenge. When I battle an area and use tactical knowledge to overcome the enemy and acquire a new weapon that allows me to level up somewhat faster, it has value not because of the increased leveling speed but because of the content and difficulties that got me there. The increased leveling speed is meaningless without those things.

What's a game if all the content and challenges are removed? A slot machine.

[Mangorange]

Starting this up on a HE bloodmage, Vampiresa.

[Millburn]

So what you're saying is that Vanguard's f2p model is perfectly suited for your tastes. I'm not sure why you're making this argument here, you're basically confirming their business model on this game.

[Sularus Oth Mithas]

Maybe I am missing something but I can't seem to customize my character. I can pick race/class/name then it goes right into the game after that. Am I missing something?

[Millburn]

Yeah you should be able to customize your character after you've done the class/race/name selection. Right after you choose to finalize those selections it'll take you to the customization window. So it's taking you directly into the game instead?

[nilbog]

Installed last night and looked around for a few. I could still wear all my stuff which was cool.

My name.. apparently got taken when they merged servers which really sucks; had to choose a new one. Did a few rounds of diplomacy and logged off.

Still have my OG prenerf 2x Destructions from when you could do the quest twice. vgplayers.com doesn't work anymore, so I can't see my profile or any of the server firsts I had gotten. Is that somewhere else, or just gone? :T

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still have my OG prenerf 2x Destructions from when you could do the quest twice. vgplayers.com doesn't work anymore, so I can't see my profile or any of the server firsts I had gotten. Is that somewhere else, or just gone? :T

Its being worked on and will be released soon. (TM)

Same goes for eqplayers.com, been down for over a year now?

[Sularus Oth Mithas]

Originally Posted by Millburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah you should be able to customize your character after you've done the class/race/name selection. Right after you choose to finalize those selections it'll take you to the customization window. So it's taking you directly into the game instead?

Got it thanks, I had only just looked at it briefly before work and didn't go that far. Up and running now, playing a necro. I will most likely play with a few classes to see what feels right before committing to one.