Some variance ideas

[Skope]

variance is P99-created and an artificial time sink - not to mention it hasn't worked once, but that's a story for another day.

And I'll be surprised as hell if you are a day over 12.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Rhuma7 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the players arent willing/able to do what is necessary, you are beating a dead horse.

yes but....what is necessary isn't classic it isn't anything that ever existed on live it was created here so the gm's wouldn't have to deal with the constant disputes between guilds. Lets bump it to a 1month variance and see how dedicated players are to camp for 30 days straight, if they aren't willing then they don't deserve ANY loot imo...

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simulated server repops would be awesome..

Has Rogaen more or less left this server? That's the impression that I've gotten from a few threads.. I don't really keep up with this sort of stuff.

Rogean has not left the server at all. however his time his split up between both P99/R99, as well as big things for the EQEmulator (ie: password reset), as well as having a RL job that sends him all over the country, as well as obligations to spend time with friends and family, as well as any other hobbies he might partake in for a bit of enjoyment amongst all the busyness.

but i assure you Rogean has not gone anywhere. i speak to Rogean and nilbog both almost every day.

tldr = Rogean cares.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/sigh

the fact that you see it this way makes me want to tear out my eye balls and beat some sense into you with them (yes, i said i wanted to beat sense into you with my eyeballs). ANY guild has a shot at ANY mob with the current system. i'm not going to sit here and give out strats to people that arent clever enough to figure out what they need to do.

but i 100% guarantee you that if i led a guild of 20-30 total members (not total online), ANY GUILD, i would get a couple traks every month, a couple VS, a couple of anything we wanted. ONLY BECAUSE of the way the current system works.

but without variance and FTE, we'd be fucked. and we'd get nothing.

Almost fell out of my chair reading that. Your a god Sirken we get that but You would never get more then 1 trak a month if that with 20-30 Total members in your guild.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Sirken

but i 100% guarantee you that if i led a guild of 20-30 total members (not total online), ANY GUILD, i would get a couple traks every month, a couple VS, a couple of anything we wanted. ONLY BECAUSE of the way the current system works.

Sirken you know I <3 you but this is some serious bullshit.

First, if you want any chance VS/Trakanon you must have your raid force fully buffed out at VS pit/Poop Mountain. So your 20-30 players can go for exactly one target at a time, and they get to play alts in the meantime.

Second, not everyone is going to log on for every batphone. Even if we assume you only track during US primetime or whatnot you won't get better than 60% raid attendance if your players have any sort of life other than EQ. That means you'll be fielding 15-20 people. And lets not forget ifi you only track during US primetime there will only be maybe 3 Trakanons a month. You are saying you would score 100% on them, PLUS get VS, PLUS get other stuff. Not going to happen.

Third, in order to get FTE you must abandon all semblance of strategy. Your 15-20 people probably could kill Trakanon with no time pressure, but with TMO there you'll have to make all sorts of concessions. You can't kill the protector first; you have to train him away. Not only does this reduce your numbers, but it means you have to kill Trak real fast. Or what about CT? It takes like 40 to kill him here because if you clear the zone first the way Verant intended the other guild will leapfrog you 100%.

Now maybe you could pick up some of the less contested stuff like Fay or Sev but there is no way you would take even a single Trakanon from TMO.

Originally Posted by sirken

sorry i didnt play on a lame ass rotation server.

Why must you insist on trying to turn P1999 into Lord of the Flies? Why can't we all just go back and relive a few memories? It's 15 years after the real EQ happened; whatever minimal bragging rights existed were handed out back then. No one is going to give a fuck who "dominated" P1999 in 10 years.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said EQ wasn't a time sink, you're just making up arguments that you want me to say so you can argue against them. You're over your head here, buddy.

It boils down to how much of a time sink and why it's artificially inflated in the first place.

Why am I arguing with a 12-year-old? Why does a 12-year-old have a green name?

Can't argue with ideas... switches to insults. GG divinity

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't argue with ideas... switches to insults. GG divinity

Only idiotic responses and rabid 12-year-old replies deserve insults.

Look at him, he started it. If he wants me to take his posts seriously then he should consider making serious posts. Instead it's just another dirtbag with a green name...

... how many is that? Sorry, I've lost count.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirken you know I <3 you but this is some serious bullshit.

First, if you want any chance VS/Trakanon you must have your raid force fully buffed out at VS pit/Poop Mountain. So your 20-30 players can go for exactly one target at a time, and they get to play alts in the meantime.

Second, not everyone is going to log on for every batphone. Even if we assume you only track during US primetime or whatnot you won't get better than 60% raid attendance if your players have any sort of life other than EQ. That means you'll be fielding 15-20 people.

Third, in order to get FTE you must abandon all semblance of strategy. Your 15-20 people probably could kill Trakanon with no time pressure, but with TMO there you'll have to make all sorts of concessions. You can't kill the protector first; you have to train him away. Not only does this reduce your numbers, but it means you have to kill Trak real fast. Or what about CT? It takes like 40 to kill him here because if you clear the zone first the way Verant intended the other guild will leapfrog you 100%.

Now maybe you could pick up some of the less contested stuff like Fay or Sev but there is no way you would take even a single Trakanon from TMO.



Why must you insist on trying to turn P1999 into Lord of the Flies? Why can't we all just go back and relive a few memories? It's 15 years after the real EQ happened; whatever minimal bragging rights existed were handed out back then. No one is going to give a fuck who "dominated" P1999 in 10 years.

Because Sirken was probably one of those hardcore's that dropped everything he was doing to be on EQ and raid and laugh at other guilds when they couldnt get any loot. That is my impression of Sirken from his constant snarky responses about any kind of Rotation. Sirken i'm sorry you played on a lame ass server where people couldnt get along and act as adults when it came to everyone having a chance at the pie. Much like it is here.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

variance is P99-created and an artificial time sink - not to mention it hasn't worked once, but that's a story for another day.

And I'll be surprised as hell if you are a day over 12.

arguing with me doesn't make you cool bro. If i was 12, youd have been banned a long time ago. looks like your just trying to get your 15 minutes

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[Rhuma7]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes but....what is necessary isn't classic it isn't anything that ever existed on live it was created here so the gm's wouldn't have to deal with the constant disputes between guilds. Lets bump it to a 1month variance and see how dedicated players are to camp for 30 days straight, if they aren't willing then they don't deserve ANY loot imo...

Even if it WAS a month of variance, who do you think would still get those raid bosses?

I can guarantee you it wouldn't be casualguild02.

Even if there was NO variance and people knew EXACTLY when raid bosses spawned, those raid bosses will be pushed to as late as possible, as mentioned in my first post in this thread and I can guarantee you casualguild01/02/03/04 will NEVER get those raid bosses.

Seen it on live and I see it here.

Planned server restart pops would be something, definitely... but with kunark being out soooooooooooooooooo long, those artificial repops would really do some things to the economy to even destroy it worse than it is already. Don't forget, those dont just pop raid bosses. It pops EVERYTHING.