The bible is not a history book.

[Hollywood]

Originally Posted by Mortiiss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spotlight + ad hominem. "The bible has some history, therefore it is a history book."

"Your arguments don't matter because you hate Christianity."

Stop appealing to fear.

Have you not just described existence in general?
What once was may no longer seem to be coughcarbondatingcough

[Eliseus]

OP is right. I'm glad I went out of my way to read his post today with no facts to support your evidence and him being a credible source in the matter. I don't know what I would of ever done with my belief towards the Bible if I didn't come by this post on an emulated server board with your superb knowledge.

Let's not even put by us also the many historical facts that HAVE been pointed out to of existed in the bible.

Science has also proven that a God could/may exist based off the fact that with the advancement in technology, that one day man may be able to perform these so called miracles and works of gods like the creation of a planet (not really what OP was about, but thought it was pretty interesting).

In the end, OP is a genius, more of the World needs him, because without him and his wise knowledge, we are all going to decline down this belief that everything that happened in the Bible is true.

[Ahldagor]

best part of all of this is that all of us have faith/trust in that we're correct. believing in nothing or believing in something is still believing.

[Mortiiss]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

best part of all of this is that all of us have faith/trust in that we're correct. believing in nothing or believing in something is still believing.

Ok? The fuck does that matter?

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Mortiiss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok? The fuck does that matter?

argument based on fact comes from a trust of the facts that would lead to an empirical argument, right? yall are arguing history which is knowable and untainted by political powers of the time/day, right?

Aph. 125 The madman.—Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market place, and cried incessantly: "I seek God! I seek God!"—As many of those who did not believe in God were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter. Has he got lost? asked one. Did he lose his way like a child? asked another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? emigrated?—Thus they yelled and laughed.

The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. "Whither is God?" he cried; "I will tell you. We have killed him—you and I. All of us are his murderers. But how did we do this? How could we drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us? Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.

"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us—for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto."

Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, and it broke into pieces and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time is not yet. This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering; it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds, though done, still require time to be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than the most distant stars and yet they have done it themselves."

It has been related further that on the same day the madman forced his way into several churches and there struck up his requiem aeternam deo. Led out and called to account, he is said always to have replied nothing but: "What after all are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchers of God?"

[Mortiiss]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

argument based on fact comes from a trust of the facts that would lead to an empirical argument, right? yall are arguing history which is knowable and untainted by political powers of the time/day, right?

Aph. 125 The madman.—Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market place, and cried incessantly: "I seek God! I seek God!"—As many of those who did not believe in God were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter. Has he got lost? asked one. Did he lose his way like a child? asked another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? emigrated?—Thus they yelled and laughed.

The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. "Whither is God?" he cried; "I will tell you. We have killed him—you and I. All of us are his murderers. But how did we do this? How could we drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us? Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.

"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us—for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto."

Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, and it broke into pieces and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time is not yet. This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering; it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds, though done, still require time to be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than the most distant stars and yet they have done it themselves."

It has been related further that on the same day the madman forced his way into several churches and there struck up his requiem aeternam deo. Led out and called to account, he is said always to have replied nothing but: "What after all are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchers of God?"

Now you're just preaching.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Mortiiss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now you're just preaching.

first two questions were mine, forgot those all important quotation marks. that's from nietzsche's the gay science, and basically describes this whole thread. the premise of a correct history is absurd, think you'll agree with that actually.

[Mortiiss]

*using the bible as a history book

Sorry, typo.

[GODPARTICLE]

higgs boson proof of Jesus christ's divinity on earth

[Alawen]

I'm almost positive that Naez presented indisputable proof that God exists in another thread.