Time to End Account Buying/Selling?

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean there were reasons this wasn't allowed on live. Not to mention there's the issue of people selling their accounts for plat then RMTing it, people getting caught cheating and selling the flagged accounts, etc.

Wasn't allowed on live because it would have made less money if people didn't have to buy a new box every time they wanted a new account.

RMT is an issue but it is only connected to account sales like it is connected to farming seafuries. You aren't going to disallow farming seafuries just because some people who spend their days in OOT can RMT that PP, are you?

Selling flagged accounts is a caveat emptor thing, no need for the staff to go out of their way to help protect dumb buyers.

[quido]

Wow Harrison, you're a bad person. I can't believe you would buy and sell accounts knowing the negative impact it has on the server. I, for one, have never bought or sold an account! Harrison you are what's wrong with p99 - someone doing wrong and knowing it and not caring about the negative impact. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[citizen1080]

So the entire server is going to suffer because TMO stepped on someones epeen?

This is no different than needing to farm potions, or resist gear or whatever is needed to complete content.

TMO has just raised the bar. If they are getting their plat legit, then any other raid force can do that just as easily and do the same thing. Fight fire with fire, dont ruin what many people enjoy. Which is being able to try out different classes at different levels without the massive time sink of lvling them.

Personally I have time to whore in the tunnel here and there...but not time to group and lvl in content. I can't commit to a 4 hour group to actually gain some xp.

So being a person with more money than time I want to be able to buy an account if I want.

And while I am obviously biased on this as I have made a lot of money from brokering account sales I am not the only person who enjoys being able to do this.



My first post was not meant to be a joke. Account sales themselves are not an issue. Its the few people who abuse them that give it all a bad rap. And as someone mentioned, banning account sales is not going to stop account sales in the least. In fact it will just encourage RMT.

[Gunga]

Just wondering, the people arguing that account trading and selling should be banned. Do you also think that the war on drugs is a success also?

[Nocte]

Originally Posted by Gunga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just wondering, the people arguing that account trading and selling should be banned. Do you also think that the war on drugs is a success also?

I'm not sure that anyone has suggested that account buyers/sellers should be banned. I think the argument is centered around whether or not buying and selling should be allowed. The penalty for breaking this proposed rule hasn't been explored in this thread, to my knowledge.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Nocte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure that anyone has suggested that account buyers/sellers should be banned. I think the argument is centered around whether or not buying and selling should be allowed. The penalty for breaking this proposed rule hasn't been explored in this thread, to my knowledge.

He didn't say that account buyers/sellers should be banned, he was trying to direct his question to the people who are in favor of making account buying/selling illegal.

[Nocte]

Seems like he was mistakenly observing "people arguing that account trading and selling should be banned."

[Kimm Barely]

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[Nihilist_santa]

There are numerous reasons why account "sales" should be eliminated.

1. Economy - Items stay in circulation forever. On Live if someone quit and had items they didn't sell those items stayed out of the game.Whats the point in removing or nerfing the drop of an item if people just trade the accounts with the item It also encourages exploiting/duping and general cheating which hurts the economy.

2. Reputation - This one has already been covered but I will add that on live people were wary of account trades because of the time invested in your character and if you grouped with someone who bought their account and did not know their class it can cost you time/xp to group with them.

3. Level Variation - Instead of leveling an alt which in theory helps others to level people are just swapping/selling high level accounts. This leaves new players to struggle with grouping options.

[azxten]

There is a simple solution to all the problems relating to account trading. Allow it but never investigate scammers. This is how it was on live and this is really why no one traded accounts in the end.

Could you imagine trying to sell your account in classic and getting scammed then making a post on the SOE forums requesting that Sony investigate and ban whoever did it?

The fact that account trades are not only allowed but also investigated when people get scammed shows that there is ZEROCHANCE of stopping account trading here because it is supported by the people who run the server.

Thread over.