Raiding - Lets Face It

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trust me, we're not considering a zone reset as the trigger for respawn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't think you would man. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
You seem to know what's up.

[ooantipostoo]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trust me, we're not considering a zone reset as the trigger for respawn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By the way, I thought it was against the rules of the server for a Dev to play on p99? Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Edit: just found this "- All members of the GM Staff have the right to be playing on the server as your peers. Those whom fall into this category will have separate login details for their GM Access account and all GMs will have access to each others server logs (corruption will not be an issue). This will allow for GMs and players to be on a level playing field."

And corruption can still be involved. Dev's are aware of issue/release dates and so forth giving a clear advantage.


However I do remember reading somewhere that this was outlawed.

[eqgamer]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To use an actual zone or server reset to accomplish this would indeed be flawed and the devs should not have to police people that are purposefully trying to crash zones to get raid mobs. For starters, what if this was done at say 4am. What dev would be around to take action then?

It's not terribly complex to keep logs of such things, such as when a zone went down/up, when a certain boss was killed, how many were in the zone etc.

Understandably there's always the "few" out there that do these things simply for giggles, but what would the point be to hack P99 for loots? Like I said, the population is so small that catching these actions would be terribly easy. With there being no other recreation to classic EQ out there right now like P99, I don't know how anyone would benefit from risking getting an IP ban from the server. Especially not an entire raid willing to get banned for it.

[Cogwell]

Originally Posted by ooantipostoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By the way, I thought it was against the rules of the server for a Dev to play on p99? Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Edit: just found this "- All members of the GM Staff have the right to be playing on the server as your peers. Those whom fall into this category will have separate login details for their GM Access account and all GMs will have access to each others server logs (corruption will not be an issue). This will allow for GMs and players to be on a level playing field."

And corruption can still be involved. Dev's are aware of issue/release dates and so forth giving a clear advantage.


However I do remember reading somewhere that this was outlawed.

That would be awesome:
"Please spend a ton of time coding for our server, then never play on it."

And by awesome I of course mean retarded.

[ooantipostoo]

Originally Posted by Cogwell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That would be awesome:
"Please spend a ton of time coding for our server, then never play on it."

And by awesome I of course mean retarded.

Yes, because this answered the question, but thanks for chiming in.

[Bumamgar]

Originally Posted by ooantipostoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By the way, I thought it was against the rules of the server for a Dev to play on p99? Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Edit: just found this "- All members of the GM Staff have the right to be playing on the server as your peers. Those whom fall into this category will have separate login details for their GM Access account and all GMs will have access to each others server logs (corruption will not be an issue). This will allow for GMs and players to be on a level playing field."

And corruption can still be involved. Dev's are aware of issue/release dates and so forth giving a clear advantage.


However I do remember reading somewhere that this was outlawed.

I am not a member of the GM staff nor do I have a GM Access account of any kind.

I am a source code developer, not a GM. All of my code changes are reviewed by Rogean and the other devs prior to going live.

[ooantipostoo]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not a member of the GM staff nor do I have a GM Access account of any kind.

I am a source code developer, not a GM. All of my code changes are reviewed by Rogean and the other devs prior to going live.

Awesome, thanks for the reply dude : ) was just curious!

Thanks for helping code [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Adso]

Originally Posted by ooantipostoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By the way, I thought it was against the rules of the server for a Dev to play on p99? Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Edit: just found this "- All members of the GM Staff have the right to be playing on the server as your peers. Those whom fall into this category will have separate login details for their GM Access account and all GMs will have access to each others server logs (corruption will not be an issue). This will allow for GMs and players to be on a level playing field."

And corruption can still be involved. Dev's are aware of issue/release dates and so forth giving a clear advantage.


However I do remember reading somewhere that this was outlawed.

Haha good one! Let the dev's produce, code and financially support a free MMO for all... but not be allowed to play it! Man, thats rich.

Tell me I am reading this guy wrong... seriously. Like go ahead devs, you can jack off but you don't get to look at porn, feel it, or climax. At the end of the day you just have sweaty hands and callouses with nothing to show for it.

Good times.

[nilbog]

My answer will not be as polite as Bumamgar's. You see, it's my job to protect the developers from people trying to troll them. In an industrial game setting, developers don't have to see or hear from dissidents. We do, but we certainly don't have to listen to it like you're a customer.

Originally Posted by ooantipostoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By the way, I thought it was against the rules of the server for a Dev to play on p99? Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Edit: just found this "- All members of the GM Staff have the right to be playing on the server as your peers. Those whom fall into this category will have separate login details for their GM Access account and all GMs will have access to each others server logs (corruption will not be an issue). This will allow for GMs and players to be on a level playing field."

And corruption can still be involved. Dev's are aware of issue/release dates and so forth giving a clear advantage.


However I do remember reading somewhere that this was outlawed.

Correct me if I'm wrong please.

You're wrong. You're wrong because its none of your business to know in the first place.

And corruption can still be involved. Dev's are aware of issue/release dates and so forth giving a clear advantage.

You're wrong. You obviously have no idea of the difference between source and content development.

Perhaps you thought this was relevant in this thread about Raiding? It's not.

If anything changes, I may or may not let you know.

[Chicka]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We can't script it cause some douche bag will start crashing the zone repeatedly and get pops, possibly several.
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I think the point is that there were both scheduled and non-scheduled world re-pops due to server outage. I believe the desired end result is the re-pop and not necessarily the server outage. In fact I wouldn't want a re-pop on server outage here due to the ass-hattery that would ensue. Nothing stops it being simulated (apart from your time, which is much appreciated btw.) With this, perhaps we could get back to _playing_ eq instead of the camp fest it has become due to the 15 person rule <-- and it all comes from here, the only GM enforced rule.

Bringing back competition and getting rid of camping would only enhance the chances of the non-camping/casual guilds to get raid targets - plus there might actually be a hope in hell of a pug raid happening.