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Old 06-23-2010, 08:40 AM
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You obviously missed the entire point of the message. You're part of the problem.
Lol.

You can't send your pet in on a mob that's been mezzed, but if your pet already has it on it's aggro list then it'll beat on it and keep breaking mez.

As an enchanter i can agree with *some* of the points raised, it's very frustrating to mez something, for the something to then run up to you and smash you in the face, you to step back, stun it, then prepare to mez it and having to duck your mez because GONARTIK is beating on the fucking mob... you spam hail GONARTIK hoping that the player who owns it will do something, but then doesn't even notice the spamming!

so in the end i root it and walk away.
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Old 06-24-2010, 03:42 PM
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You obviously missed the entire point of the message. You're part of the problem.
My bad, I don't group with scrubs who can't keep their pulls under control :-/
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:42 AM
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I've forcefully tried breaking mez with my pet and I get the 'Sorry master, I am unable to awaken <target>" message, so you've got your facts wrong somewhere.
Ok, so you read all of that, and you still don't understand? (This is the arguement that the last pet class gave me)

I will explain this (hey I tested it and you are wrong) once.

You can do all the single target testing you want. You can have a mob Mezzed and you try and send the pet, the pet will return "I cannot wake up this mob master". (this works most of the time with single target)

It is when you introduce the multiple mob situation that you run into real problems when you are lazy and just say "it isn't my pet". It is when your pet is already attacking one mob (so its attention is set to do one thing) and then an additional mob comes to piss it off that causes the problem most of the time. Think of it like a 3 year old getting a shot, if you shake something shiney in its face while he or she is getting a shot, most of the time they don't know what is going on.. (example a pet attacking a target), it is after you remove the shiney thing that the 3 year old notices the pain (Pet notices the aggro from the 2nd mob, and then mezzed or not goes and attacks it).

I really don't know how to put it anymore simple.

p.s. There were no 3 year olds harmed in this testing.
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Old 06-24-2010, 03:44 PM
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Ok, so you read all of that, and you still don't understand? (This is the arguement that the last pet class gave me)

I will explain this (hey I tested it and you are wrong) once.

You can do all the single target testing you want. You can have a mob Mezzed and you try and send the pet, the pet will return "I cannot wake up this mob master". (this works most of the time with single target)

It is when you introduce the multiple mob situation that you run into real problems when you are lazy and just say "it isn't my pet". It is when your pet is already attacking one mob (so its attention is set to do one thing) and then an additional mob comes to piss it off that causes the problem most of the time. Think of it like a 3 year old getting a shot, if you shake something shiney in its face while he or she is getting a shot, most of the time they don't know what is going on.. (example a pet attacking a target), it is after you remove the shiney thing that the 3 year old notices the pain (Pet notices the aggro from the 2nd mob, and then mezzed or not goes and attacks it).

I really don't know how to put it anymore simple.

p.s. There were no 3 year olds harmed in this testing.
I skimmed because I barely ever group with Enchanters and on the rare occasion that I do they're only there for Clarity and haste, most of the time my pet IS the CC because it makes things die faster.
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Old 06-24-2010, 04:16 PM
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hmm, haven’t had that problem when it comes after me after pet breaking it. but I also play with a druid that snares everything(like a good little cute druid should *pets the druid wolf thing*) /cough... any who. my chanter is almost 30 now have only died when I charm things.... and not paying attention /cough... seems that’s the biggest and most needed attribute of a chanter. ATTENTION SPAN yay... but then again I like watching my druid friend run around like an idiot. Druid/chanter combo is great [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

but uhh... definitely going to start invising people when they don't work their pet right... just got the feeling my chanter is going to be well hated...
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Old 06-24-2010, 04:27 PM
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My bad, I don't group with scrubs who can't keep their pulls under control :-/
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I skimmed because I barely ever group with Enchanters and on the rare occasion that I do they're only there for Clarity and haste, most of the time my pet IS the CC because it makes things die faster.
You're just another terrible pet class and that's pretty much it.
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WOW GUYS THATS A HARD CONCEPT BUT NO I'M TOO FUCKING SELFISH AND NEEDY AND I NEED TO FIND A WAY AROUND THE RULES TO MAKE MYSELF FEEL BETTER

Seriously, every time I see a fucking thread like this OH MYGOD THEY HAD 14 PEOPLE ITS OUR MOB LOL OURS OURS OURS YESSS I just want to fucking deathtouch the entire guild and despawn the mob.
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Old 06-24-2010, 09:13 PM
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You're just another terrible pet class and that's pretty much it.
lolumad?
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:04 AM
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The "pet guard here" command is also good to set a small distance away from the camp. Wait for the tank to call assist, send in... back off pet when mob is at a certain health % depending how fast it is dropping. In this case, the pet is a small distance from the pull, and can give the caster a short window to hit the pet back off/calm down in time....

For raids, early on and then in the later expansions especially, 99%, I wouldn't even bother with a pet. Would concentrate more on keeping healers with mana and dots to targets.

Haven't noticed it in p99 yet, but how about a pet class going LD and then somehow that pet would aggro the group? Also seemed that pet would turn into a roided out machine.
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Old 06-26-2010, 08:53 PM
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I didn't know about the pet hatelist thing, this is my first pet class : / thanks for the post though, I will be a better shaman for it!
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:09 AM
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just invis the pet's master. Pet dies. Point across.
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