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Old 03-19-2013, 03:55 PM
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I say in the long run the snare neck is better because it can save you big time. Say you are oom or near it and you'd rather have the mob run than root and tank, the snare neck will save your ass.

Both are good and have their uses, but you can only use the fear neck on undead, snare works on anything/everywhere and you can pull out the big saves every now and again.
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:40 PM
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A lot of great advice in this thread, but a few things popped into my head.

I think the best thing about being a shaman is if you like small groups you can duo with practically any class. Warriors, Monks, Rogues, Rangers, Shadowknights, Magicians, Necros, Enchanters are all great partners. And even stuff like a Bard, Paladin, or Druid could work OK.

I think Enchanters get better effective mana regeneration than shamans when taps come online at 51. Even if mana/tick is lower, we don't have may manahog spells: Rapture, Boltrans, and Rune are about it.

At high levels I don't see many necromancers or druids. These classes are both fantastic in classic but take a big hit in Kunark.

Pharmakos, someone is wrong with your monk, unless you never have haste or something. A tstaff monk should hit 50-60 dps easily on xp mobs depending on level. My iksar warrior actually will do 60 dps on xp mobs with his VP weapons.

Every time I hear about the JBB I wonder who the fuck itemized Kunark. Shamans get a 30 dps clicky, Magicians get a 24 dps clicky, Druids get a 15 dps aoe clicky, and Wizards get nothing till VP. It's just mind boggling. Giving wizards the JBB and Theft of Thought instead of Shamans and Enchanters respectively would do so so much to balance the classes in Kunark.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:07 PM
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I say in the long run the snare neck is better because it can save you big time. Say you are oom or near it and you'd rather have the mob run than root and tank, the snare neck will save your ass.

Both are good and have their uses, but you can only use the fear neck on undead, snare works on anything/everywhere and you can pull out the big saves every now and again.
And in the situation you described, 90% of the time i'd use root even if i had the neck. Why? I'm assuming that since you don't want the mob to run you're in a dungeon, and with 6.0 cast time (and short duration) it can be tough to get spells off in time before mobs turn corners. Not only that, I always found the snare neck to get resisted more than root spells, especially immobilize.

So basically the snare neck is of marginal use but in more situations, and also unreliable in said situations. I'd rather have something that is of great use in specific situations, especially if I can control what situations I put myself into. The fear neck alone has probably halved my solo exp time from 40-52, as if you look in the right spots you can find undead with fewer hp that you simply couldn't kill efficiently without it.

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The snare clicky (albeit slow to cast, short in duration, and minimal effect)
So you'd recommend a deity choice because of an item with minimal effect, and say it's good for those "oh shit" moments with a 6.0 cast time vs. 2.0 with root and 1.75 with immobilize?
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:18 PM
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So you'd recommend a deity choice because of an item with minimal effect, and say it's good for those "oh shit" moments with a 6.0 cast time vs. 2.0 with root and 1.75 with immobilize?
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:13 PM
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I love CB, but if I remember correctly it hurts my Neriak faction. There are few enough places for me to go as is, I'd hate to narrow it further.
Just the Indigo Brotherhood. As long as you don't go into their building you are fine.
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:13 PM
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When I first came back to p99 and rolled my shaman I completely forgot about going inny for the snare neck, probably because it was hardly useful. Glad I went Cazic this time around. I'm guessing most of the posters in this thread haven't played a shaman that had the clicky fear. All I can say is that if you roll Cazic you won't regret your choice, as there are plenty of undead hunting opportunities in Norrath. If you're creative this neck piece is useful even 55+. Iksar shaman should try for it too, although I have no idea how painful faction hunting for it would be.
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:23 PM
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When I first came back to p99 and rolled my shaman I completely forgot about going inny for the snare neck, probably because it was hardly useful.
It gets even more useful when root no longer overwrites sow (and yours, arguably, gets a little less useful)... Spook the Dead would be fun, and I freely admit that CT is a FAR cooler deity - but please don't act like my snare neck is worthless because you might be a little mad you forgot to consider it this time around...
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:57 PM
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It gets even more useful when root no longer overwrites sow (and yours, arguably, gets a little less useful)... Spook the Dead would be fun, and I freely admit that CT is a FAR cooler deity - but please don't act like my snare neck is worthless because you might be a little mad you forgot to consider it this time around...
Who's mad? I'm merely giving people an alternative to going Innoruuk as a troll. I'm not going to convince anyone who is 30+ to reroll as cazic, nor do I want to. And why would spook the dead become less useful when root no longer overwrites snare?
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:50 PM
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For faction it seems to me that picking Cazic over Inny seemed to be an easier go. It could just be perception my part though.
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:08 PM
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How is the life of a shaman?

Well, it's basically living the EQ dream: making plat and fucking wood elves.
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