How is the life of a shaman?

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by trinkets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I say in the long run the snare neck is better because it can save you big time. Say you are oom or near it and you'd rather have the mob run than root and tank, the snare neck will save your ass.

Both are good and have their uses, but you can only use the fear neck on undead, snare works on anything/everywhere and you can pull out the big saves every now and again.

And in the situation you described, 90% of the time i'd use root even if i had the neck. Why? I'm assuming that since you don't want the mob to run you're in a dungeon, and with 6.0 cast time (and short duration) it can be tough to get spells off in time before mobs turn corners. Not only that, I always found the snare neck to get resisted more than root spells, especially immobilize.

So basically the snare neck is of marginal use but in more situations, and also unreliable in said situations. I'd rather have something that is of great use in specific situations, especially if I can control what situations I put myself into. The fear neck alone has probably halved my solo exp time from 40-52, as if you look in the right spots you can find undead with fewer hp that you simply couldn't kill efficiently without it.

The snare clicky (albeit slow to cast, short in duration, and minimal effect)

So you'd recommend a deity choice because of an item with minimal effect, and say it's good for those "oh shit" moments with a 6.0 cast time vs. 2.0 with root and 1.75 with immobilize?

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you'd recommend a deity choice because of an item with minimal effect, and say it's good for those "oh shit" moments with a 6.0 cast time vs. 2.0 with root and 1.75 with immobilize?

Yes

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I first came back to p99 and rolled my shaman I completely forgot about going inny for the snare neck, probably because it was hardly useful.

It gets even more useful when root no longer overwrites sow (and yours, arguably, gets a little less useful)... Spook the Dead would be fun, and I freely admit that CT is a FAR cooler deity - but please don't act like my snare neck is worthless because you might be a little mad you forgot to consider it this time around...

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It gets even more useful when root no longer overwrites sow (and yours, arguably, gets a little less useful)... Spook the Dead would be fun, and I freely admit that CT is a FAR cooler deity - but please don't act like my snare neck is worthless because you might be a little mad you forgot to consider it this time around...

Who's mad? I'm merely giving people an alternative to going Innoruuk as a troll. I'm not going to convince anyone who is 30+ to reroll as cazic, nor do I want to. And why would spook the dead become less useful when root no longer overwrites snare?

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...why would spook the dead become less useful when root no longer overwrites snare?

To get sow off of an undead before fearing it, you'd have to actually dispel it. I recognize that not that many undead get buffed with sow, and maybe you don't care if your spooked undead scream away from you at sow speed ... hence "a little".

[Lojik]

When I first came back to p99 and rolled my shaman I completely forgot about going inny for the snare neck, probably because it was hardly useful. Glad I went Cazic this time around. I'm guessing most of the posters in this thread haven't played a shaman that had the clicky fear. All I can say is that if you roll Cazic you won't regret your choice, as there are plenty of undead hunting opportunities in Norrath. If you're creative this neck piece is useful even 55+. Iksar shaman should try for it too, although I have no idea how painful faction hunting for it would be.

[Sularus Oth Mithas]

For faction it seems to me that picking Cazic over Inny seemed to be an easier go. It could just be perception my part though.

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by Sularus Oth Mithas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For faction it seems to me that picking Cazic over Inny seemed to be an easier go. It could just be perception my part though.

I think it was definitely easier to get in good with Cabilis when I was a CT Troll. My Inny Troll is 200 stacks of bonechips closer to where I was then, but I still got a ways to go.

Other than that - I don't notice any difference. Still loved in Grobb, tolerated in Oggok, and I would presume I do slightly better in Neriak (where I end up sell/banking quite a bit).

[Arterian]

Is there a list of zones shamans can cast shrink in?

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Arterian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is there a list of zones shamans can cast shrink in?

Would be the same as a list of indoor zones. I think in general if you can see the sky somewhere in the zone, you can't shrink.

*edit* fixed, thanks droog