Cultural armor?

[Palemoon]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, I almost hate to say it (put's on shin guards) but gnome cultural was the last to be implemented if I recall correctly.

Gnome (blue diamond) cultral was added in so late (post the release of PoP) both it and even minotaur blood used to make it dosent exist on Al'kabor server (I petitioned a GM for this and he could not even create the mino blood). Made me very sad.

MY opinion (since I am a big fan of diety choice as a way to differenciate characters from other characters) is to add in all cultural eventually. It was "intended" that all dieties/races got their cultural , just the work load had it spread out so far across expansions. Its still all the same strength (we talking old cutural, not the LoY and later stuff) and would be bad that some races/religions got theirs and others are shut out from theirs forever. (like gnomes on al'kabor...)

Or was all blue diamond cultural after velious? Anyways, blue diamond or the earlier weaker non blue diamond combines, in the name of character diversity let all races/dieties get their "special" armor. IMHO.

[guineapig]

I've been looking over the recipes race by race and the items required are fairly vanilla.

Notable exceptions include stuff like Terrorantula Silk for Erudites, but that mob is in the game now. Considering that erudite recipes were released after Velious and they don't ever ask for anything like velium or crystaline silk pretty much shows that they came up with these recipes long before they ended up implementing them.

[Extunarian]

I can't find it now, but I feel like I saw something that made use of celestial essence. Would any of those recipes be considered classic?

Otherwise I'm basically just looking for stuff with crappy stats that trivials under 200...

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Extunarian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't find it now, but I feel like I saw something that made use of celestial essence. Would any of those recipes be considered classic?

Celestial Essence is used in:

Baking

* Blood Raven Stew
* Elf Essence
* Holy Cake
* Planar Fruit Pies
* Spicy Tuna Sunrise Steak

Brewing

* Acid Wash
* Coldain Velium Temper
* Epicthieck's Lubricating Goo
* Ethereal Curing Agent
* Ethereal Temper
* Fizzy Odus Juice
* Kaladim Constitutional
* Mistletoe Temper
* Purified Water
* Qeynos Afternoon Tea
* Scrindite's Instruction Ink
* Surefall Ranger's Trail Juice

Fishing

* Blessed Fishing Rod

Poisonmaking

* Celestial Suspension
* Elf Essence

Pottery: (Too many to mention)

Smithing

* Blessed Sickle Blade
* Blessed Sickle Hilt
* Blessed Sickle Pommel
* Embroidering Needle
* Shadowspike Arrow Tip

Tailoring

* Sacred Tunare Silk
* Spider Silk Filter

Doesn't look like any of our old-school cultural recipes make use of this so we are in the clear.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Extunarian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Otherwise I'm basically just looking for stuff with crappy stats that trivials under 200...

Imbued Vale Studded armor all trivialized around 122 and these were among the very first recipes introduced.
Imbued Mithril Studded armor also trivialized at 122. The stats are indeed poopy on both sets.

[Extunarian]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imbued Vale Studded armor all trivialized around 122 and these were among the very first recipes introduced.
Imbued Mithril Studded armor also trivialized at 122. The stats are indeed poopy on both sets.

Working on a rather comprehensive list of all obvious smithing types that should be in the first batch of cultural added. I'll post it shortly.

I'm omitting Gnomes and any race that only tailors for now.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Extunarian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Working on a rather comprehensive list of all obvious smithing types that should be in the first batch of cultural added. I'll post it shortly.

I'm omitting Gnomes and any race that only tailors for now.

It looks like just about every piece of armor with "imbued" in the name on EQtraders falls in to your prerequisites of smithing under 200 trivial.

Keep in mind a lot of these go by deity though, not race.

For example:

Imbued Field Plate Boots
Slot: FEET
AC: 12
STR: +4 STA: +2
WT: 7.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR BRD
Race: HUM BAR ELF HEF DWF HFL GNM
Deity: Rallos Zek

As you can see, gnomes get some love too (as long as they are not agnostic).

[Extunarian]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It looks like just about every piece of armor with "imbued" in the name on EQtraders falls in to your prerequisites of smithing under 200 trivial.

Are you saying imbued stuff wasn't in the game? I believe it was considering it was first noted in October of 2000. In all likelihood added on 9/19 with the rest of the tradeskill revamp and this was the first player comment found a couple weeks later.

Imbue Gem Spells Noted
<= Oct 4, 2000
Allakhazam
Comments are it is recent

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Extunarian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Working on a rather comprehensive list of all obvious smithing types that should be in the first batch of cultural added. I'll post it shortly.

I'm omitting Gnomes and any race that only tailors for now.

Nice. Thanks for your work on this [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Extunarian]

As far as I can tell, these are the first types of cultural armor introduced into the game. The recipes and their components are simple by cultural smithing standards.

I only went with the races and materials specifically mentioned in that September 2000 announcement I linked earlier. We can add to this but for now this is my "for sure" list (subject to change if I find out I'm wrong):
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Barbarian:
Northman Ring (Non-Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Imbued Northman Ring (Non-Enchanted, Imbued Ivory- Tribunal)

Dark Elves:
Chain
Teir`Dal Chainmail (Non-Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Enchanted Teir'Dal Chainmail (Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Imbued Teir'Dal Chainmail (Enchanted, Imbued Sapphire - Innoruuk)
Plate
Teir`Dal Adamantite (Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Teir`Dal Adamantite (Enchanted, Imbued Sapphire - Innoruuk)

Dwarves:
Chain
Dwarven Chain (Non-Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Imbued Dwarven Chain (Enchanted, Imbued Ruby - Brell Serilis)
Imbued Dwarven Chain (Enchanted, Imbued Peridot - Bristlebane)
Plate
Dwarven Plate (Non-Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Enchanted Dwarven Plate (Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Imbued Dwarven Plate (Non-Enchanted, Imbued Ruby - Brell Serilis)
Dwarven Plate (Enchanted, Imbued Ruby - Brell Serilis)

High Elves:
Chain
Elven Chain (Non-Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Enchanted Elven Chain (Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Imbued Elven Chain (Enchanted, Imbued Emerald - Tunare)
Plate
Koada'Dal Mithril (Non-Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Mystic Koada'Dal Mithril (Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Imbued Koada'Dal Mithril (Enchanted, Imbued Emerald - Tunare)

Humans:
Freeport Plate
Field Plate (Non-Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Imbued Field Plate (Non-Enchanted, Imbued for Bertox, Rodcet, Rallos, Inny, Marr Twins and Karana)
Qeynos Plate:
Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platinum Full Plate (Non-Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platinum Full Plate (Enchanted, Non-Imbued)

Ogres:
"Chain"
Ogre Splintmail (Non-Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Ogre Imbued Splintmail (Non-Enchanted, Imbued Jade - Rallos Zek)
Ogre Imbued Splintmail (Non-Enchanted, Imbued Amber- Cazic Thule)
Plate
Ogre War Plate (Non-Enchanted, Non-Imbued)
Imbued Ogre War (Enchanted, Imbued Jade - Rallos Zek)
Imbued Ogre War (Enchanted, Imbued Amber- Cazic Thule)


This leaves off Iksar, Gnomes, Trolls (their cultural stuff is weird) and any Tailoring races. I'll add those in later but I need to look more closely at the materials in some of the recipes.