FTE shouts

[heartbrand]

Getting cheated out on a classic number of pixels per week Lord Nilbog on red. Just because people don't want to fight for precious pixels doesn't mean they should be an endangered species!

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Getting cheated out on a classic number of pixels per week Lord Nilbog on red. Just because people don't want to fight for precious pixels doesn't mean they should be an endangered species!

This thread isn't about pvp and isn't in pvp server chat. Post about this elsewhere.

[heartbrand]

Was sarcasm sorry my lord, continue on pals with this riveting thread. On a constructive note shouldn't you add the heavily contested epic mobs like verina tomb to this list?

[Kagatob]

Question for Dr. Nilbog. Is FTE policy going to remain a thing when Velious eventually releases? I have concern for those quested items that need to be handed into the raid encounters by people who have allied faction with them? How to do this if they will constantly be sniped on spawn?

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Question for Dr. Nilbog. Is FTE policy going to remain a thing when Velious eventually releases? I have concern for those quested items that need to be handed into the raid encounters by people who have allied faction with them? How to do this if they will constantly be sniped on spawn?

Turning in quest items has nothing to do with FTE policies. To this date, you will still have a problem finding Dain, Yelinak, or Tormax spawned on eqlive.

[heartbrand]

Took me months to do a hand in to dain on live shit was awful.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Turning in quest items has nothing to do with FTE policies. To this date, you will still have a problem finding Dain, Yelinak, or Tormax spawned on eqlive.

I'll have to respectfully disagree. On live they didn't use FTE, if you had your raid force there first you had the mob, this means that if you have players in the guild raiding the mob who have appropriate faction, the guild can wait the 30 seconds it takes someone to hand in their item before the guild engages. I know this having seen it done multiple times on the Bertox server.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll have to respectfully disagree. On live they didn't use FTE, if you had your raid force there first you had the mob, this means that if you have players in the guild raiding the mob who have appropriate faction, the guild can wait the 30 seconds it takes someone to hand in their item before the guild engages. I know this having seen it done multiple times on the Bertox server.

read the rules.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll have to respectfully disagree. On live they didn't use FTE, if you had your raid force there first you had the mob, this means that if you have players in the guild raiding the mob who have appropriate faction, the guild can wait the 30 seconds it takes someone to hand in their item before the guild engages. I know this having seen it done multiple times on the Bertox server.

First guild with sufficient force to engage the npc.. was the 'code of engagement' we had on erollisi marr. If you're saying people would stand around and wait for other people to turn in items, I don't believe it. Should they? Sure, that's a nice thing to do. Nothing like that has ever been enforceable from live GMs to my knowledge.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First guild with sufficient force to engage the npc.. was the 'code of engagement' we had on erollisi marr. If you're saying people would stand around and wait for other people to turn in items, I don't believe it.

They would do such if it were members of their own guild. They would have no reason not to unless they felt they needed to hit the mob the second it spawned (FTE)

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should they? Sure, that's a nice thing to do. Nothing like that has ever been enforceable from live GMs to my knowledge.

I've never been a GM so I don't know they enforced it, I joined the server about halfway through the release of Kunark where the raiding methods there were already pretty well established. I could only assume the GM's had information to tell them how long certain characters were logged in specific zones. If the guild being /petitioned against had their 15th (number out of thin air) member arrive twenty minutes later than the guild sending the petition, it would be obvious who arrived in force first and the latter guild would have to sit out and wait and see if the first guild wipes.