Variance Changes

[contemptor]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This only helps guilds willing to park their entire primary, secondary, or tertiary raid force -- made up of characters they have been buying up for months -- at a target (because that's what constitutes mobilization nowadays) while they play 3rd/4th alts.

At least before, if non-poopsock guilds knew the mob was short in window, it wouldn't be unheard of to hang out for a bit and add to the competition that some of these guilds have allegedly been yearning for.

Doesn't exactly level the playing field. All you've done is given the mob to the guild with the most IP Exemptions so they can log in their raid force the quickest. Not sure if that was the intent here.

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Originally Posted by Mortiiss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry they have more characters? Start leveling more up! Or buy some with plat.

I approve of these changes and I think it will get rid of socking. I feel bad for the guilds without that many characters, though.

lol?

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Red doesn't have variance. Happier than ever that I made the switch!

[Servellious]

POOP SOCKING COCKBLOCKING

[kazima441]

This won't stop poop socking. TMO and FE are just going to sock to the 15% hour now and then rinse/repeat.

Stop trying to break already broken content and give us velious -- 14 months now? Another 30 raid targets as opposed to us all pissing on each other for the same 5 we've been beating on for 2 years now might be a better solution.

We're all very grateful for the server, but anything worth doing is worth doing correctly.

Don't call this classic if it isn't... Was removing the compass because it wasn't classic more appropriate than this?

And, stop bitching about other guilds not being able to break the scene. This server has seen more rising and falling of the titans than live servers ever did. It takes the right people at the right time and the right amount of dedication and drive. Whether you tell yourselves you can do it or you cannot do it, you're right.

[Scowlie]

If the goal was to prevent poopsocking, I don't really see this changing much. The problem isn't that 100+ players are waiting ingame for a boss to spawn, it's that everyone has 2-3+ characters sitting at every target. When VS spawns, there are usually only 5-10 people ingame. Within 5 minutes, there will easily be 80-100+.

Just like Kunark was a temporary solution to the content problems in Classic, Velious will only be a bandaid. I would have to imagine that a lot of players will come back for Velious and there will be more raiding guilds than there are now.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd like to clarify some misinformation that was provided with the latest patch, starting with the lack of a patch note and then an error in confirmation on my part.

Back when we were discussing changes about extending the window of a mob's spawn when it fell within the last 15%, I wrote some code to show as an example. Turns out that code ended up staying in and I had forgotten about it, and it went live with the latest compile.

So...

Patch Note: Respawn timers that fall within the last 15% of a window will now be extended by a random amount up to 24 additional hours, repeating accumlatively until the window is under 85% for total potential spawn time. This currently applies to all mobs who have any variance at all, but will be adjusted next patch to only include mobs that have a minimum base spawn of 2 days or more.

So I am with Giegue: after a huge flamethread the community pretty much settled on simultaneous repops + fte shouts (and I even made a poll about a week ago which was in favor of this solution over the current raid scene by votes of about 15:1. Obama would sell his soul to be elected by that margin) and you made a post indicating that was roughly what you and Nilbog were planning, not to mention less variance. And there was much rejoicing. Now the patch comes and instead we have more variance, not less. I went to google 'wtf' and found this insane video. Take that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihOva...ture=fvwp&NR=1

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I am with Giegue: after a huge flamethread the community pretty much settled on simultaneous repops + fte shouts (and I even made a poll about a week ago which was in favor of this solution over the current raid scene by votes of about 15:1. Obama would sell his soul to be elected by that margin) and you made a post indicating that was roughly what you and Nilbog were planning, not to mention less variance. And there was much rejoicing. Now the patch comes and instead we have more variance, not less.

This.


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[Triangle]

With all due respect, this is a bad decision. In fact not only is it a bad decision, it is coincidentally the exact opposite of what a good decision would be.

[Nlaar]

Originally Posted by Triangle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With all due respect, this is a bad decision. In fact not only is it a bad decision, it is coincidentally the exact opposite of what a good decision would be.

Agreed.

Those "in charge" need to reread Yendor's / Lazortag's / Splorf's posts.

[Crazyeye]

Cant imagine how far were actually off on velious arrival if were just now attempting to fix the end game of kunark after 2 years. You can't fix whats broken, if your gonna attempt fix something do it the right way with focusing on more content to fill the needs of the massive top end player base.

adding 24hours of variance ontop of the 92hour windows on the total of 14 ( 8 excluding VP ) major boss mobs we currently have 150+ players contesting for, or adding 30+ raid mobs to the mix while freeing up the current to other guilds ?

You are even getting major support from us players recently trying to help the progression of velious. Why not take advantage of this and update the crowdscouring or whatever else it is that we can assist with getting that here rather than wasting your time on this crap?