Best solo melee class?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DSM in 2025, favoring sustained output over max mana:



DSM in 2023, favoring max mana over sustained output:







Yes I remember this thread because it was where I finally got triggered and butthurt enough to put him on ignore on my old account.

He's at it again!



Typical DSM M.O, pick some absurd position that completely misses the forest for the trees and plant your feet for 60 pages. The positions don't even have to be logically consistent with each other across threads! I thought about doing a Clear argues with Clear but it's too much effort

You should actually read these posts instead of simply posting them and claiming a non-existant victory. It makes you look really bad lol. You haven't improved at reading comprension or context it seems.

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should actually read these posts instead of simply posting them and claiming a non-existant victory. It makes you look really bad lol. You haven't improved at reading comprension or context it seems.

Thank you for continuing to prove that you cannot rebut my arguments. Insults, sarcasm, and fallacies are all you have left.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you for continuing to prove that you cannot rebut my arguments. Insults, sarcasm, and fallacies are all you have left.

The difference here is people can just read my quotes and see you are wrong.

As a simple example, you quoted a thread about starting stats. Suggesting you put 20 points into INT as your starting stats doesn't mean I am saying max mana is better than sustain in a solo/group XP session. These are two different discussions.

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Suggesting you put 20 points into INT as your starting stats doesn't mean I am saying max mana is better than sustain in a solo/group XP session. These are two different discussions.

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

4. When soloing, SK's use mana for fear kiting, especially when they are an Iksar without access to Blood Ember. This is a much more efficient manner of leveling than face tanking the mob. The mana is going to help with fear kiting.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Max mana should be a lower priority for sure. When trying to maximize kills per hour, you generally aren't meditating to full mana before the next kill, so extra max mana is often unused.

Which is it, is the max mana helpful for fear kiting leveling, or is it often unused because you generally aren't meditating to full while fear kiting leveling?

The argument could be made that it's both, but that would also mean you're weighting the value of that extra mana far differently then versus now, for the purposes of rhetoric.

[Cecily]

After some testing, I can say with some authority that clickies are absolutely required to not kill Tserrina. Here's proof:

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After some testing, I can say with some authority that clickies are absolutely required to not kill Tserrina. Here's proof:

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Great! Nobody has claimed you need clickies to kill her. Nor did anybody claim you need clickies to kill mobs in Howling Stones.

The specific word here is "need". You can certainly play less efficiently and kill less mobs per hour by ignoring clickies when they make sense. Nobody is stopping you.

I also stated in this very thread max mana can be useful for killing more difficult mobs. You are comparing mana sustain in XPing scenarios (solo and group) to killing the boss mob of a dungeon. Perhaps you don't understand the difference?

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, my daily drivers are sarnak earring of station and sarnak pearly bauble. Figured I could switch the earring of station for a woven bark with imperceptible downsides. I also have a pair of HGLs but I'm not sure I'm cool with the -30ac, although I can see it working out in some situations. I'll swap one for earring of living thunder eventually but I just blew all my money on a fungi.

Yeah I'd definitely give the woven bark a spin over the earring of station. Statwise it's probably close to a wash depending on other gear, but the clicky is convenient. Living thunder certainly looks nice, but the see invis part is kinda a waste until you outgrow helm of the tracker. Speaking of which, if you don't have one and want one I can hook you up with a MQ for that.

This whole discussion actually has me considering whether I've outgrown my earring of woven bark. It was a hand-me-down from my druid, where I got it while leveling in chardok as a tip from befriending and buffing a necro farmer with regrowth over a couple weeks. It's been great to have, but the mana savings aren't significant and the clicky cast time is annoying. I'm curious what you or any of the other rangers in this thread would suggest for a replacement. I'll trade you the woven bark for that bauble straight up [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This whole discussion actually has me considering whether I've outgrown my earring of woven bark. It was a hand-me-down from my druid, where I got it while leveling in chardok as a tip from befriending and buffing a necro farmer with regrowth over a couple weeks. It's been great to have, but the mana savings aren't significant and the clicky cast time is annoying. I'm curious what you or any of the other rangers in this thread would suggest for a replacement. I'll trade you the woven bark for that bauble straight up [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Two HGL’s are ideal. I have an Earring of Essence only because I’ve been lazy about grabbing another. It’s a solid earring though. If coupled with an EoE, I’d rather use a Blue Diamond earring or Fingerbone Hoop over a pearly bauble. MR is the best for a class that does a lot of pulling.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Two HGL’s are ideal. I have an Earring of Essence only because I’ve been lazy about grabbing another. It’s a solid earring though. If coupled with an EoE, I’d rather use a Blue Diamond earring or Fingerbone Hoop over a pearly bauble. MR is the best for a class that does a lot of pulling.

Where do you pull that MR is that significant? Genuinely curious. Outside seb/chardok I don't really see it and groups rarely do chardok. I find getting slowed while soloing is a better reason to wear MR. Considering all the earring options a ranger has EoE is pretty weak when you don't need the MR.

HGL is 30hp over a bauble, the -15ac seems like a steep price to pay if you're not already oozing AC, which won't happen for a non raid geared ranger.

Am I missing something?

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where do you pull that MR is that significant? Genuinely curious. Outside seb/chardok I don't really see it and groups rarely do chardok. I find getting slowed while soloing is a better reason to wear MR. Considering all the earring options a ranger has EoE is pretty weak when you don't need the MR.

HGL is 30hp over a bauble, the -15ac seems like a steep price to pay if you're not already oozing AC, which won't happen for a non raid geared ranger.

Am I missing something?

Many of the worst spells in the game are MR based. It doesn’t happen often but when it does, you die.

Snare, root, fear, blind, slow. Gflux if no Levitate in PoHate.

Sure, maybe 255mr won’t resist that dragon fear either…but the question will keep you awake at night.

I’ve never cared at all about AC. That only matters if you take physical damage. And as we have figured out with rangers, it doesn’t really matter then either. I admit, I’m very biased against it…maybe naive but it’s worked well over be years.

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good advice Snaggles, thanks. Looks like a Blue Diamond will keep me covered until I get a Fingerbone.

I still swap mine in for ToV. They are solid!