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[stonez138]

Originally Posted by DeruIsLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The majority of atheists are anti-theists. What's your point?

I have to disagree. The majority of atheists just mind their own business. There is a small but vocal minority that are anti-theists.

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by stonez138 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have to disagree. The majority of atheists just mind their own business. There is a small but vocal minority that are anti-theists.

I would agree with you to a point, as a good number of them can't do anything because they are closeted atheists and would lose much of if not everything that they have not to mention possibly being ostracized from their family/community.

As for the ones who are publicly non-religious and don't do anything, they are part of the problem similar to (note before you blow your tops: similar) women who sat back and did nothing during the women's rights movements (or today those who don't fight for control over their own bodies) , or African Americans who did nothing during the civil rights times, or like homosexuals who don't fight for their rights.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by DeruIsLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a common misconception. The problem atheists near universally have, is the fact that the religious majority are using their faith to justify immoral decisions that directly impact the qualities of life of people around the world.

There is some irony here but I will ignore that. How do you decide that these decisions are immoral? You are acknowledging some absolute truth? If there is no God how can there be absolutes?

[Rhuma7]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is some irony here but I will ignore that. How do you decide that these decisions are immoral? You are acknowledging some absolute truth? If there is no God how can there be absolutes?

The same way an atheist enjoys a nice seasoned steak or a walk on the beach during the sunset.

The same way an atheist also doesn't like it when a mud puddle splashes up on your brand new shoes.

You don't need god to know what is good and bad, its called the golden rule.

Don't do things you don't want done to you.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Rhuma7 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The same way an atheist enjoys a nice seasoned steak or a walk on the beach during the sunset.

The same way an atheist also doesn't like it when a mud puddle splashes up on your brand new shoes.

You don't need god to know what is good and bad, its called the golden rule.

Don't do things you don't want done to you.

If that atheist is a vegetarian aquaphobic dirt hippy he would hate it. Pfft relativism. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by Lron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont know 1 atheist who says WITHOUT A DOUBT 100% THERE IS NO GOD. This would instantly be knocked down and argued into oblivion by any other atheist.

Once again, you fucking morons need to learn basic definitions of words before you try to argue against them.

Atheist lack a belief in a god or gods because we see no evidence that supports these claims....this is not a declarative statement that THERE IS NO GOD.

I dont believe that atheist forum story either as it was told.

Its a true story, go read it on Atheists Australia, just google Zygote404, that was me before I got banned.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by Lron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Id be a mormon if polygamy was still a dominant tenant of the religion but i heard most contemporary mormon churches do not teach this great philosophy.

Lol, well, yes, Mormons don't practice that anymore, and no you wouldn't. One wife is hard enough to deal with why would you want more! haha

[abacab-bansdontwork]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, well, yes, Mormons don't practice that anymore, and no you wouldn't. One wife is hard enough to deal with why would you want more! haha

>Implying polygamists don't beat their wives into submission or greatly restrict what they can do.

Yeah, I could see multiple wives being bad if they were overly opinionated, ambitious and won't put up with bullshit (I.E will straight walk out on you for being a douche); but most wives in polygamist marriages are straight up doormats, and when they're not busy popping out their n-teenth kid or doing laborious housework they simply read scripture that reinforces the idea that men are completely superior to them and their only purpose is to bear children.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Lron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"evolution proved or not doesn't change the fact of our existence as an existent being within a greater being"

This is not a "fact", far from it. It is you attempting to find philosophers that share your theistic delusions. Any crazy person can find another crazy person that was smart but had bad ideas, and adhere to a logical fallacy, an appeal to authority.

You are practicing Confirmation Bias.

so you willed yourself into being? get with contemporary philosophy and out of the 1800s

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Lron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"evolution proved or not doesn't change the fact of our existence as an existent being within a greater being"

This is not a "fact", far from it. It is you attempting to find philosophers that share your theistic delusions. Any crazy person can find another crazy person that was smart but had bad ideas, and adhere to a logical fallacy, an appeal to authority.

You are practicing Confirmation Bias.

That might be the first thing you've said that makes sense. And I agree with you 100%. Unfortunately for you it also fits how the theory of evolution was popularized to a tee.

"one belief that all true original Darwinians held in common, and that was their rejection of creationism, their rejection of special creation. This was the flag around which they assembled and under which they marched.... The conviction that the diversity of the natural world was the result of natural processes and not the work of God was the idea that brought all the so-called Darwinians together in spite of their disagreements on other of Darwin's theories. (One Long Argument,1991, p. 99, Ernst Mayr (1904–2005), Professor of Zoology at Harvard University)

"We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door." ("Billions and Billions of Demons," Richard Lewontin (b. 1929), PhD Zoology, Alexander Agassiz Research Professor at Harvard University)