Asking a favor from the two top guilds on the server

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Stormhowl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay. So what are you doing about it other than not arguing the point being discussed? You can't accuse other people of "derailing" when you yourself engage in the same behaviour. It's hypocritical and it detracts from getting to the meat of the issue. There's a word for people who's calling cards are deflections and hypocrisy.

Are you planning to discuss the point at hand or continue to dance around circuitously like an AoE kiting bard on speed?

i already posted my suggestion which is realistic unlike this "enforced rotation" pipedream.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by finalgrunt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If variance was the solution to this, then we wouldn't have such an extreme domination from top guilds. That's why I believe you got it wrong. Variance, like other raid scene rules (15 men rules, FTE, etc.) were created because the staff thought it would deter players from monopolizing content. And they did seem like possible good ideas when they were introduced. Everybody on this server has been welcoming new rules in hope it would change the current scene.

this is not true IMO. even without variance fe/tmo is going to get the vast majority of the mobs as other guilds wouldn't have timers and don't want to get involved in the "poop socking" etc. The only way you will keep guilds from monopolizing content is if other guilds rise up willing to put in the same time commitments...

[kotton05]

if you want to SEE what a non varianced mob looks like, go to sky around 11/12 in the morn on sunday, wait for dojo to spawn.

FTE/Variance is a great solution. Rotated mobs, maybe if another guild is out there doing what it takes, never know what may happen.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you want to SEE what a non varianced mob looks like, go to sky around 11/12 in the morn on sunday, wait for dojo to spawn.

FTE/Variance is a great solution. Rotated mobs, maybe if another guild is out there doing what it takes, never know what may happen.

Simultaneous repops would be better. If for example at 12pm noon every Sunday Dojo as well as 4 other low/mid tier mobs spawned at the same time it would force communication between guilds. If both top guilds want the same mob that means they can enjoy their shitty FTE fest while the remaining guilds get a chance at the other mobs on that timetable.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simultaneous repops would be better. If for example at 12pm noon every Sunday Dojo as well as 4 other low/mid tier mobs spawned at the same time it would force communication between guilds. If both top guilds want the same mob that means they can enjoy their shitty FTE fest while the remaining guilds get a chance at the other mobs on that timetable.

this is basically server repops which has been requested for some time. when those happens guilds have to prioritize which targets they go after first and risk losing out on the others. I don't think it would require too much effort for this to happen and depending on the time of day it happens would give quite a few guilds a great chance at getting mobs they are not seeing now.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simultaneous repops would be better. If for example at 12pm noon every Sunday Dojo as well as 4 other low/mid tier mobs spawned at the same time it would force communication between guilds. If both top guilds want the same mob that means they can enjoy their shitty FTE fest while the remaining guilds get a chance at the other mobs on that timetable.

this could be really cool, I agree. just so few and far between to really know how this more often would turn out. also when mobs outta window it feels really weird, but this once a month or something would be something to look forward to, assuming its random.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this could be really cool, I agree. just so few and far between to really know how this more often would turn out. also when mobs outta window it feels really weird, but this once a month or something would be something to look forward to, assuming its random.

I used the time as an example. You could make several different sets of mobs on different spawn cycles. 3, 3.5, 4, 4.25 etc. day spawns, always at 6am, noon, 6pm or midnight EST, but set like clockwork and having nothing to do with when the mob died.

I don't have the spawntimes of mobs memorized but I'm pretty sure that even in classic there were many mobs that had the same repop time, the only "non-classic" aspect of it would be fixing the respawn timer to be set on spawn and not kill which is still much closer to classic than the current variance system is and also serves to in many situations nullify the need for the FTE system.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this is not true IMO. even without variance fe/tmo is going to get the vast majority of the mobs as other guilds wouldn't have timers and don't want to get involved in the "poop socking" etc. The only way you will keep guilds from monopolizing content is if other guilds rise up willing to put in the same time commitments...

It's not that hard to get a timer. Especially if you're exping in Seb and 100-200 people enter the zone. With FTE, what's the point of poop-socking with no variance?

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not that hard to get a timer. Especially if you're exping in Seb and 100-200 people enter the zone. With FTE, what's the point of poop-socking with no variance?

it's not going to be 4-5 hour poopsocks but people will be there early buffed sitting on the spawn spamming f8 for fte. like merkk said come up to sky on sundays around noon and see for yourself.

[Ravager]

That's a very reasonable time.