SK Race Choice

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agree to disagree.

Glad to see you are finally starting to practice what you preach. Now all you need to do is stop your trolling and start providing advise to the other trolls to do the same. This will build back your destroyed credibility.

Then we can discuss the finer points of forum etiquette if you desire.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right. The question is very simple. Why do you get targeted by trolls at a rate far exceeding other people on these forums. Why are the people who very often troll you able to carry on reasonable and civil debates and conversations with other people that do not devolve into trolling and insults.

If you can answer those questions in an honest way I think you'll find all the data you're looking for.

I cannot mind read other posters. Trolling is their own personal decision. You need to ask them. The trouble with this is you cannot tell when a troll is being sincere, or lying.

There is NO valid reason to troll someone. This means it doesn't actually matter why at the end of the day.

I will take a guess, but I cannot prove it obviously. People bully others, often by grouping up. The commonality across the bloated threads is the same posters doing the trolling. They have banded together and formed a mutual agreement to troll people they disagree with. This makes "winning" debates easier for them, because they can appear to be correct without having to actually do any work to show why they are correct.

Because they have shown themselves to be trolls, people will be less likely to engage with them, for fear of being trolled. A troll can have a civil conversation with someone they agree with. The issue comes in to play when a disagreement occurs. I simply happen to be one of the posters who is not afraid of confronting their potentially faulty ideas. Their trolling tactics do not scare me. Bullies do not like it when people fight back, so they will go to extra lengths to try and attack me at every turn.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are the people who very often troll you able to carry on reasonable and civil debates and conversations with other people that do not devolve into trolling and insults.

Croco may be on to something here guys …

Let’s see if DSM can figure it out.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think you're being honest in your assessment. I have seen plenty of the people who troll you disagree with other people in threads not involving you and it does not devolve into trolling and insulting.

You are an admitted troll. Your honesty is in question here, not mine. It is easy enough to assume you are lying about your assessment to troll yet again. You are literally trolling me right now with your signature.

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a cop out.

It's not a cop out. There is no valid reason for trolling people. If you think there is a valid reason for trolling, you are supporting the trolls in their behavior.

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you actually believe this I think there's an underlying issue you're not addressing.

I think most people would just use the block function on people they deem to be trolls so they don't have to engage with them at all. I have plenty of people on these forums and on discord blocked. It's a wonderful tool to cut down on the noise.

You don't know what everyone's opinions are about the ignore/block button. I personally do not use it at all.

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you honestly think that trolls target nearly everything you post on the forums because they disagree with you but they don't target other people they disagree with? Or do you think it's just random chance that the vast majority of things that get posted these trolls agree with and you're by a large margin posting things that the trolls don't agree with?*

*(I came to this conclusion because of how often you are targeted by trolls compared to every other person on the p99 forums. Your target rate far exceeds everyone else, even the people who post far more than you, of which there are a fair amount.)

Why do you think it is a stretch for bullies to come together to bully other people? It happens all the time in real life and on the internet. I am not forcing them to troll every thread I post in lol.

You seem to forget other posters agree with me too. I am not the only one who shares my opinions.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My perception is that your opinions seem to be in the minority and that there are usually very few people who agree with you when I read a thread you're actively posting in.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The cop out is saying it doesn't matter at the end of the day why they are trolling you. That absolves you from any need to think critically about why they might be trolling you.

Incorrect. You are falsely assuming that getting trolled means it is because you are doing something wrong. Bullies do not need a reason to target someone. It is clear you are insinuating I am doing something wrong, while you still haven't provided any evidence.

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obviously no one does. But I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the average person would block someone instead of subjecting themselves to people who either do nothing but troll or troll a very high percentage of the time. People don't usually subject themselves or consume trolling/bullying content if they can make it disappear.

This is yet again, just your opinion. I do not use the block button.

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think it's a stretch for bullies to come together to bully people. That obviously happens. I think it's a stretch to think that there is no reason other than "bullies gonna bully and troll" for why you are so disproportionally targeted amongst everyone else on these forums. Including but not limited to people who post more often than you. I don't think it's just because they disagree with you because that would lead to the conclusion that everyone else they don't troll (ie: the vast vast majority of other people that post on the forums) they agree with everything they post.

You can have disinterest or disregard for that question but I personally think it's the most important question to answer regarding the topic of why you seem to attract trolls/bullies everywhere you go on the forums.

Occam's razor. The simplest explanation is I have been targeted by bullies and trolls. This is the internet. You yourself are an admitted troll, and are targeting me specifically with your signature lol.

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My perception is that your opinions seem to be in the minority and that there are usually very few people who agree with you when I read a thread you're actively posting in. Obviously that doesn't mean that you're wrong, but it does show a pattern that can lead to a reasonable conclusion. You will undoubtedly disagree with me but I feel like you constantly find yourself in the minority opinion with a small minority of people supporting your ideas because you too narrowly focus most of your debates and don't take a proper wider view of the debate into account.

In this thread alone:

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lack of BE clickies is significant. You’re saving at minimum 120 mana a split. I fear kited like crazy in dungeons. Slam goes a long way in addition to short term fear in close quarters. DSM has provided multiple videos of zones like hs and seb where you can fear kite.

Go troll with all into INT for a solo crawler. If you’re gonna go BIS, then maybe erudite/DE for best mana pool but by the sounds of it troll is the winner for you.

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I was gonna make a SK I’d go troll. Best all around option imo between start stats, regen, kunark clickies and slam.

Two people who often disagree with me, agree with me. Your perception is simply flawed. Just because there are a few threads where a lot of people disagree with me, it doesn't mean that is the general case, or that I am wrong. I am fine with being wrong too! I have admitted to it plenty of times in the past.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Two people who often disagree with me, agree with me. Your perception is simply flawed. Just because there are a few threads where a lot of people disagree with me, it doesn't mean that is the general case, or that I am wrong. I am fine with being wrong too! I have admitted to it plenty of times in the past.

Precisely! I don’t disagree just because you are you. When you are correct, I agree with you. In this instance I say troll is best for SK. (For the same reason it’s best as shaman)

But When you say BS like:

regen isn’t worthwhile on a 60 shaman with torpor …

or when you say shaman dps in a high dps group with 2 charm pets is as good as a mage …

or when you say 4.3% more dps isn’t “worth it” compared to minuscule extra total mana pool on a casual sk….

Nah man in those instances you are wrong.

I don’t agree or disagree with the person. I disagree or agree with what is being said. Unfortunately you are wrong in these discussions more often than not. What brings you ire, however, is the stupid way you go about being wrong.