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Old 01-31-2015, 01:43 PM
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they're treating the drop rate issue as a code problem rather than a database problem. for some reason putting in [commondrop]=75 [raredrop]=25 or w/e in the database doesn't actually make things 75/25. makes it more like 90/10 for some reason. so in an effort to preserve database labor they are keeping the 75/25 value in the DB until they can figure out how to fix the server code.
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Old 01-31-2015, 08:11 PM
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they're treating the drop rate issue as a code problem rather than a database problem. for some reason putting in [commondrop]=75 [raredrop]=25 or w/e in the database doesn't actually make things 75/25. makes it more like 90/10 for some reason. so in an effort to preserve database labor they are keeping the 75/25 value in the DB until they can figure out how to fix the server code.
This is exactly what kpemu had issues with. They woild say it would change it but it never worked. One insufferable asshole on the box killed an epic mob over 100 times for the mage in bw. Even when you added extra drop chances at 100% like they tested in vex thal it wouldn't drop right.


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Old 01-31-2015, 09:43 PM
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I definitely died allot in level's 1-3 killing rats and what not. But it was fun, quit whining and hang in there, it gets better.

Lots of fiddling around has gotten my disconnecting issues all but resolved. Read the forums people, chances are it's been covered and someone has had your issues. Don't be lazy, look for an answer. If you can't find it there are plenty of people on TAKP forums who are willing to help. SERVER IS NEW - BE PATIENT, HAB FUN!< durrr

Boxing 3 chars is fun, if you don't like it play 1, if you don't like it play 2, if you don't like it play p99 or live, it doesn't throw things WAY out of balance, it can be very challenging, unless you're cheating in someway, in which case - you are lame. Give it a try. Or find your own cup of tea.

This server's drama is being blown out of proportion, and often, and at most times based on nothing more than speculation/hatorade

Yeah it's a new server, yeah it has some bugs.. BUT things have gotten allot better since it opened (1 month ago) The dev team works hard, updates constantly, and does it for nothing. I am grateful for the server and the work. So why complain so much?
Al'kabor got shut down, and 5 mins playing here felt so much better than the 9 months i spent on p99. The raiding is a joke on p99, and the raiding is currently a joke on TAKP as there is hardly any. But the people are what make TAKP superior, in my opinion. No disrespect to p99 and their awesome staff and server.

My only current gripes with TAKP are..
What is classic EQ without Dragons?
That should be a top priority to be fixed immediately. No Dragons = No Fun. Also the drop rate's of lower guk items, is ridiculous. Those things are important, especially when there are very few high level zones in this current expansion era. Whoever said the GM's are over policing the server do kinda have a point, it does feel like that at times. Some of the server MOTD's are a little awkward and ?????uhhh????? to the casual player. I would say if there is one area where the Server is lacking it would be in the public relationship department. But when you post MOTD's like that, and make posts on the forums calling out certain people who are "picking" on the server, it seems like you are buying in to the drama, and overly concerned with that, rather than making the server the best it can be. With that said, the forums/server is very nice otherwise, and i'm sure the previously mentioned issues with loot and dragons will be fixed in a matter of time. I've personally had nothing but pleasant 1 on 1's in regards to my GM encounters here, just going off of what i've seen otherwise.

If there's favoritism, i haven't noticed it THAT much, but some things don't add up. It is frustrating though, at times, to be playing in a buggy classic server, with no dragons and messed up loot tables. And to top it off - some people have Guise of the deceivers and custom titles, but they don't drop, and you cant request one (it's against the server rules) - and to be expected to report bugs without any incentive, or even an official response is meh. So what you get is whining, and a feeling of confusion and unfair treatment. - If EVERYONE had the opportunity to receive such treatment with a unique item like that, then something like that might bring the server together contributing, instead of leaving people left out and feeling disconnected. -- LIVE did it with Veteran rewards, and of course those who played when EQ first came out, had access to those pre-nerfed items. There's nothing like that here. They don't drop.

The GM's/Devs have an opportunity here to be something special, and really have a great server and a tight community rather than a bunch of mice in a Norrath maze that you get to poke with a stick. Please consider that going forward.

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The people on this server (especially the Al'kabor people) are a very nice, fun, and helpful community of players, and many have known each other for years. There are allot of casuals running around doing their thing. It's easy to cast stones at p99 for still being in kunark, and poopsock lameness, It's easy to cast stones at PEQ for being THE lame, it's easy to cast stones at TAKP for being buggy or boxing etc etc etc..

There's no perfect world, life isn't fair. Give 'em all a try and find what you like. Looking back on all of this it seems like there are few people that work hard for the masses, and allot of people that are ungrateful miserable whiners. I suppose i'll try not to be so much of a whiner moving forward, and continue to be legit dude that has fun playing EQ w/o the drama.


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Old 01-31-2015, 01:51 PM
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there are plenty of drops in the database right now that deviate from the 75/25 rule and have weird values in the DB due to straight magelo imports without normalization. The FBSS until recently had a drop rate of under 20%, to name a prominent example
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Old 02-01-2015, 07:45 PM
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there are plenty of drops in the database right now that deviate from the 75/25 rule and have weird values in the DB due to straight magelo imports without normalization. The FBSS until recently had a drop rate of under 20%, to name a prominent example
This isn't quite accurate. It was 20% in the database, not less-- but due to the logic error in the loot drop function, it was dropping less than 20%, like almost everything else. I just bumped that up to 25% a couple days ago after reviewing the magelo data.

The effective drop rates for a 75/25 item are about 19.2%/80.8% currently. Code to fix this problem is currently being tested.

Also I had absolutely nothing to do with your forum suspension. I had no idea it happened until now.

The loot drop logic error is one of many bugs that are not unique to our server-- we forked eqemu like every other server did, and we got their bugs along with it. TAKP is fully open however, so our fixes are often going back to eqemu.

Low level mobs hitting so hard is the result of the melee damage mitigation algorithms being inaccurate. (also from eqemu) NPC attack delays and max hits are very close to Al'Kabor's, if not precise in the majority of cases. At higher AC values, the opposite problem is likely happening: mitigation is too high.

We're aware of these issues. We can't just fix them overnight. I'm literally working on this server all day every day.
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Old 01-31-2015, 04:16 PM
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really want to play this but its giving me alot of problems.

I cant log into the game most times. It usually just shows the loading screen after char select until I close out of it or it just closes itself.

when zoning, it just freezes.


anyone know where I can find some info for these specific problems?
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Old 01-31-2015, 07:29 PM
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really want to play this but its giving me alot of problems.

I cant log into the game most times. It usually just shows the loading screen after char select until I close out of it or it just closes itself.

when zoning, it just freezes.


anyone know where I can find some info for these specific problems?
As far as I know these are known problems that many people are having, including myself. It used to be worse then it is right now.

And with the new change they made where there is a wait period to log in a character again, it's pretty much a joke and I've stopped even bothering to log in anymore.
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Old 01-31-2015, 07:13 PM
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I wouldnt bother trying this yet. The game is full of bugs and population is worse than RED. You've been warned...

It is very unpolished at this point in time but has potential.
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Old 01-31-2015, 07:30 PM
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I wouldnt bother trying this yet. The game is full of bugs and population is worse than RED. You've been warned...

It is very unpolished at this point in time but has potential.
the more people that beta test, the quicker the server will be polished.

population definitely isn't worse than red. a bit better than blue but with more prominent high end raging neckbeards.

that vocal neckbeard minority aside the average person on TAKP is pretty awesome.
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Old 01-31-2015, 07:35 PM
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I'll have to take another peek at their forums.
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