Spells: 100 MR to resist MR nuke. 350 FR to reduce FR nuke.

[Nirgon]

You're a saint. Keep riding this immersion wave and we'll have a stunning pvp server.

[Pudge]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AOEing will be possible.

Part of my non-classic gift, is spells like root/mez/stun, will not be subject to the max resist rate cap. So above a certain resist level, you will get 100% resists.

Not a game breaking deviation from classic, but I think its one that will open up aspects of the game on red that are currently not available.

If you dont like it, meh. Give me something more important to work on.

H

Uh. Why? Why make these spells not even have a possibility of landing? Why depart on classic for this? Making spells completely useless just removes part of the game, making the ge ultimately less interesting.

Taking a chance on casting a root or whatever is someone's gamble. Is a 1 in 50 chance (that's what it is currently, right?) really too much? At that point it is practically out of the question to cast and would only be a last ditch effort to stop someone from getting to a zone line. But it's still too OP?

Mez was also one of the CC spells that landed more easily than root even. (Yes a i know mez usually got casted after a tash. Still was easier to land mez than root at the same mr) can't give it a 2% chance?

Stuns.. Same thing. Most are already harder to land because they have 2 resist checks.. The stun part and the damage part. And straight up stuns should remain easier to land than the damaging ones. Also some low level damage + mini-stuns for enchanter and wiz should be unresistable/extremely rarely resisted. These were used to reliably interrupt other ppl casting. Again, there should not be any way to achieve complete immunity from an important part of many classes pvp spells.

Removing these features takes away a part of the game that added complexity and gambling into the PvP mix. Please don't remove parts of the game that make it fun (and sometimes maddening!) for the players.

I could understand going for straight up non-classic mechanics if this wasn't Project 1999. Or even, maybe if you played red over the years it's been up and had your gripes. But it seems you haven't and are armchairing some of these changes, relying on the words of 3 or 4 ppl who are monitoring this thread to support this development. Instead of posing these questions to the greater community/treading lightly by merely nerfing spells, they are being thrown out the window (unless, of course, your enchanter buddy (1 out of 14 classes) happens to be leveling with you. This just makes the game way worse for all other spellcasting classes.. To need an enchanter everywhere in order to have the *possibility* to land a spell. Granted I don't know the resist level you have in mind. But even at 255 there should at least be a 1 in 50 chance that that geared out, velious resist melee could get held up a sec.

[Nirgon]

These were used to reliably interrupt other ppl casting.

100+MR? nope

[Colgate]

pudge is arguing for a 2% chance to land a root so that it adds more to the game

but when there's a 2% chance to land a root, NO ONE casts root

why are you even arguing that? nothing will change other than the one-in-a-million chance that i'm pvping and an earth pet root lands on me

[Pudge]

It's true it's not a big difference. But why make it impossible?

Heh thinking about it.. actually giving 2% could be a detriment to some casters, because they'll be casting it and trying to fight rather than simply strafe running to a zone line

I just don't see the reason to completely remove these over allowing that 2% possibility that they provide utility. On classic it was 5%, I think even haynar posted evidence of this some pages back in this thread.

I just don't want to see casters gimped so hard in velious I guess. If this were classic Norrath I'd be all for this level of spell resistance

[Technique]

Originally Posted by Pudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't see the reason to completely remove these over allowing that 2% possibility that they provide utility. On classic it was 5%, I think even haynar posted evidence of this some pages back in this thread.

Quoting myself here

Originally Posted by Technique [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for the 95% resist cap, this was set to 98% by Alecta a year ago

based on this:

I don't know of any contrary evidence that supports 95%.

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but when there's a 2% chance to land a root, NO ONE casts root

So if that's the case already then there's no need to make a non-classic change to reduce it to 0%.

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

100+MR? nope

Resisting enchanter's chaotic feedback at 100+ MR? Nope:

CF hits pretty regularly even if you have 350 magic resist.

http://www.therunes.net/forums/viewt...hp?f=39&t=5942

I can usually land chaotic feedback on pc's with 450+ mr, it stops spellcasting and spells

http://www.therunes.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=898

[Mac Drettj]

Yeah we should prob get a separate thread going to help H with all the specialty unresistable interrupt types, i.e, chaotic feedback, shock of steel or w/e for mage, shock of lightening

[Not Salem]

Root could still be used by casters on mobs! that happens in real EQ PVP - (mobs you were fighting before pvp happened, spawned during your pvp, or you ran into while running around trying to avoid your head being cut off, ...). Unless the mobs get despawned, then yeah you will have a ton of spells you don't need and can't use.

[Bazia]

I think casters need more nerfs, lets just stroll pass rogues doing 1k damage in 4 secs without disc

[Nirgon]

I didn't say chaotic feedback or shock of lightning

I said STUNS

Like STUN from cleric

GOD