So how about that Zimmerman trial?

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by Vaildez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What annoys me the most about this whole thing was how quickly MSNBC jumped on the race card bandwagon and wanted to burn Zimmerman at the stake. The same day this happened a mentally handicapped white person was jumped and killed in minneapolis by a group of African Americans. Where was the racial outrage and headline story for that?

Didn't you get the memo? It just isn't possible that racism can go both ways. Get with the program.

[Malice_Mizer]

I remember the last experiment we conducted on African Americans to see how they'd react...

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I remember Tuskegee going exceptionally well for everyone involved.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't you get the memo? It just isn't possible that racism can go both ways. Get with the program.

This is true. Racism is only top-down and never bottom-up. Thus, in any situation where one racial group has power, they have the potential to be racist (e.g. mexican racism against salvadorans in predominantly mexican neighborhoods). This local context has to be further modified by the global context, in which power is highly concentrated in the hands of - mostly - white men.

Dislike or mistrust of one racial group by another for no reason other than their skin color can be bigotry or prejudice, but if there are other reasons for that dislike or mistrust, such as oppression, this is no longer bigotry or prejudice; it is judice, if you like, or self defense.

Also, there is no such thing as a "race." This is all a non-argument, using nonsense words that mean nothing, perpetuated by bigots.

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is true. Racism is only top-down and never bottom-up. Thus, in any situation where one racial group has power, they have the potential to be racist (e.g. mexican racism against salvadorans in predominantly mexican neighborhoods). This local context has to be further modified by the global context, in which power is highly concentrated in the hands of - mostly - white men.

Dislike or mistrust of one racial group by another for no reason other than their skin color can be bigotry or prejudice, but if there are other reasons for that dislike or mistrust, such as oppression, this is no longer bigotry or prejudice; it is judice, if you like, or self defense.

Also, there is no such thing as a "race." This is all a non-argument, using nonsense words that mean nothing, perpetuated by bigots.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=07GHz...%3D07GHzQuuG_M

So the attitudes and threats by blacks in this video are a form of self defense justified by past oppression by whites?

Mmkay.

[Bodeanicus]

Originally Posted by Vaildez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What annoys me the most about this whole thing was how quickly MSNBC jumped on the race card bandwagon and wanted to burn Zimmerman at the stake. The same day this happened a mentally handicapped white person was jumped and killed in minneapolis by a group of African Americans. Where was the racial outrage and headline story for that?

Were the African Americans arrested, and charged immediately, or were they allowed to just go home after the killing? Were they allowed to wander around the Police station, basically just hanging out after they killed someone?

Didn't fuckin' think so. If Trayvon Martin had been blond haired, blue eyed, surfboard shot wearing Travis McDonald, George Zimmerman would already be in prison, and that's the fucking difference. Zimmerman harassed a black kid he didn't recognize, then shot the kid when he started getting his ass whipped. If he'd stayed his punk, cop wannabe ass in his car and waited for the real police, he wouldn't be on trial. I wish I could say Martin would still be alive, but the police probably would have killed him, too, judging by how they just let Zimmerman go the fuck home after killing a black kid.

[Gadwen]

Everyone in this thread is wrong.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Bodeanicus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Were the African Americans arrested, and charged immediately, or were they allowed to just go home after the killing? Were they allowed to wander around the Police station, basically just hanging out after they killed someone?

Didn't fuckin' think so. If Trayvon Martin had been blond haired, blue eyed, surfboard shot wearing Travis McDonald, George Zimmerman would already be in prison, and that's the fucking difference. Zimmerman harassed a black kid he didn't recognize, then shot the kid when he started getting his ass whipped. If he'd stayed his punk, cop wannabe ass in his car and waited for the real police, he wouldn't be on trial. I wish I could say Martin would still be alive, but the police probably would have killed him, too, judging by how they just let Zimmerman go the fuck home after killing a black kid.

^ dum

self defense is self defense and this case probably never reaches court if martin was a blond haired, blue eyed white kid. the facts of the case supported zimmerman's claim to self defense. self defense is notoriously difficult to prosecute because it's exceptionally difficult to prove a negative beyond a reasonable doubt, especially in a case like this where there is unquestionable physical injury to the party that claimed self defense. because of that, no charges were brought until a swell of racial outrage demanded further inspection

there is also no evidence to suggest zimmerman "harassed" martin. as a neighborhood watchman, he followed him and upon confronting him, asked him what he was doing. that's all we know from the facts. there's nothing wrong with that. it's not illegal, it's not unethical, it's not even all that stupid. if, as zimmerman claims, martin attacked him on that basis, zimmerman had every right to defend himself. and given the reasonable assumption that zimmerman would face serious bodily harm during this attack (he had already suffered a broken nose and was being pinned to the ground), he was justified to use deadly force

this all supposes zimmerman's claims are truthful, and they may not be. but there is vastly insufficient evidence to disprove his claims beyond a reasonable doubt. hence, charging him was an exercise in futility

[Bodeanicus]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ dum
there is also no evidence to suggest zimmerman "harassed" martin. as a neighborhood watchman, he followed him and upon confronting him, asked him what he was doing.

Against the advice of every Neighboorhood Watch organization's guidelines in the entire country. Zimmerman is not a policeman, despite his fantasies to the contrary. According to SYG, Martin had the right to defend himself against Zimmerman. Too bad he was black. Apparently, in Florida, they just send you on home for picking a fight, then killing black people. That is, until someone reports it to national media.

that's all we know from the facts. there's nothing wrong with that. it's not illegal, it's not unethical, it's not even all that stupid.

It's causing the unnecessary death of another human being through negligence, incompetence, and stupidity. In other words, it's manslaughter.

if, as zimmerman claims, martin attacked him on that basis, zimmerman had every right to defend himself.

Martin had every right to defend himself from a strange man, who is not a security guard or police officer, following him. Or are all black teenage males "fucking punks" up to "no good." And Zimmerman is a proven liar. He and his wife both got thrown into jail for lying about their finances to a judge, remember?

and given the reasonable assumption that zimmerman would face serious bodily harm during this attack (he had already suffered a broken nose and was being pinned to the ground), he was justified to use deadly force.

Maybe he shouldn't harass strangers and he wouldn't get his ass kicked. If he hadn't had his gun, his fat pussy ass wouldn't have gotten out of the car in the first place. It comes down to that idiotic SYG law that never should have been passed by fat, old white baby boomers frightened to death of black people. This is what happens.

this all supposes zimmerman's claims are truthful, and they may not be. but there is vastly insufficient evidence to disprove his claims beyond a reasonable doubt. hence, charging him was an exercise in futility

Wrong. It's the state's duty to investigate the killing of a human being by another human being, no matter the circumstances beyond "Hey Bob, it's just a dead ******. Let him go, you know how them coons are."

[Vaildez]

Originally Posted by Bodeanicus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Were the African Americans arrested, and charged immediately, or were they allowed to just go home after the killing? Were they allowed to wander around the Police station, basically just hanging out after they killed someone?

Didn't fuckin' think so. If Trayvon Martin had been blond haired, blue eyed, surfboard shot wearing Travis McDonald, George Zimmerman would already be in prison, and that's the fucking difference. Zimmerman harassed a black kid he didn't recognize, then shot the kid when he started getting his ass whipped. If he'd stayed his punk, cop wannabe ass in his car and waited for the real police, he wouldn't be on trial. I wish I could say Martin would still be alive, but the police probably would have killed him, too, judging by how they just let Zimmerman go the fuck home after killing a black kid.

Since you obviously paid no attention to the evidence in the case...

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[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Use capital letters and punctuation when you address me, bitch.

And yeah, sure that was your point.

At least during your transparent back-peddling you don't dispute that you're a dumbfuck bigot. If anything, you've only reinforced it by implying blacks have been "given" their own communities.

yawn

you trollin on malice_moron level now?