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[heartbrand]

luckily 2 and 3 applied to me GG

[Stinkum]

Originally Posted by GoodGuyAmes

Job Outlook
Employment of lawyers is expected to grow by 10 percent from 2010 to 2020, about as fast as the average for all occupations. Competition for jobs should continue to be strong because more students are graduating from law school each year than there are jobs available.

There was always fierce competition between lawyers for jobs but the field is expected to grow just as steadily as most other jobs in America. People also fail to realize that when you graduate with a J.D you have more options then just practicing law. You can become a legal professor, Legal Consultant, Public Administration, Public Servant (look at how many politicians are lawyers) etc.

you live in the state with the #1 worst amount of surplus lawyers in the country by far

"The Lawyer Surplus, State by State"

Originally Posted by The New York Times

New York:

Estimated Annual Openings for Lawyer Jobs for 2010-15: 2,100
2009 Bar Exam Passers: 9,787
2009 Completers (IPEDS): 4,771
Annual Number of Surplus Lawyers: 7,687

too bad they don't teach you basic arithmetic, there are literally 0 jobs for the 100,000s of ames' of the world who will graduate in this decade

i wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors in unemployment

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors in unemployment

I didn't know Elie Mystal played P99

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Those numbers are slightly inflated because they count total bar exams passed in New York State

Those numbers aren't quite as scary if you're not pursuing Biglaw in NY which is a total meat grinder and you already have connections. In my opinion, California is the bigger problem because of how many unaccredited law schools they have there. Those graduates can ONLY take the California bar and they can ONLY practice in that state. They're putting out 2X as many graduates in California as there are projected openings and roughly 1/2 of those graduates are from unaccredited schools. Yeah, it's gonna be a student loan fueled hilarity bomb of sadness and angry baristas.

[heartbrand]

btw you severely underestimate the value of a degree from a regional school if you plan to work in your area

[Something'Witty]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

btw you severely underestimate the value of a degree from a regional school if you plan to work in your area

Correct, but if you move out of the area where the regional school is well known, it can be an issue.

For example, my wife went to a small liberal arts college that was extremely well respected in the area, and I went to a mediocre state university. When we went to apply for grad school, even though she had a better GPA, GRE scores, and went to a "better" school, she had problems getting accepted where I did not. Now some of that can be attributed to the demand for grad students in our respective fields, but during her interviews, no one knew anything about the school where she earned her BS.

Oh and philosophy = a great minor; how to structure an argument was one of the most useful classes I have ever taken. It would probably be extremely useful in ForumQuest, if ForumQuest actually involved logic...

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Something'Witty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh and philosophy = a great minor; how to structure an argument was one of the most useful classes I have ever taken. It would probably be extremely useful in ForumQuest, if ForumQuest actually involved logic...

It's funny sometimes how much a struggle it is to turn hard philosophy into light and airy nonsense, which is what attracted me to the subject in the first place.

Of course logic isn't going to be this way, but even in ethical theory courses they try to turn it into mathematics.

[Something'Witty]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course logic isn't going to be this way, but even in ethical theory courses they try to turn it into mathematics.

Ya, because quantitative > qualitative right?

Oh and post modernism = total BS!




P.S. The above statements do not reflect the views of the author, but are merely an attempt to troll philosophy / social science majors!

[Pudge]

I detest "Light and airy" philosophy. This is what gives the major a bad name. I went to a school with an awesome phil program and thought this must be the standard of actual college philosophy. Then my brother at another school described a "philosophy" course he took where the teacher literally sometimes put on a video/movie. I was appalled.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Something'Witty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya, because quantitative > qualitative right?

Oh and post modernism = total BS!




P.S. The above statements do not reflect the views of the author, but are merely an attempt to troll philosophy / social science majors!

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Originally Posted by Pudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I detest "Light and airy" philosophy. This is what gives the major a bad name. I went to a school with an awesome phil program and thought this must be the standard of actual college philosophy. Then my brother at another school described a "philosophy" course he took where the teacher literally sometimes put on a video/movie. I was appalled.

Media like that should always be suggested as supplemental material, I agree. And why would it matter if the major was given a bad name? The old white men had their chance, and all they did was make the subject matter as dull as humanly possibly while still maintaining a a consistent level of intellectual masturbation. If all we're going to do is masturbate and debate smugly, why can't we travel into the realm of light-hearted nonsense?

And don't tell me that we need to keep some things in the objective realm to even express ideas with any meaning, because I'm perfectly happy not talking to any of you and exploring the nature of value all by myself [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Faerie]

Why is everything a pissing contest with you people? Lol it's so funny, and also kind of not <33