So that's it for the election.

[Hasbinlulz]

Also, I think a whole lot of self-proclaimed atheists are actually agnostic, misled by idiots like Hitchens to think they're atheist.

[Hasbinlulz]

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

atheists are the biggest dummies

I disagree, they are equally as dummy as theists.

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Hasbinlulz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I do not realize that. Please explain.

Right, that's a logical leap and therefore invalid.

The validity of god. How is logic invalid? It's logical to believe that when turn a light on by it's switch that it will turn on unless the light bulb is burnt out. However, imo it's pretty easy whether or not to tell if there is or isn't a god simply by praying for the most unselfish thing possible. Religion in god was built as a control mechanism to get everyone to cooperate. The validity of god may not be fully testable in the "does he exist or doesn't he" But there is some major reasoning behind why he doesn't exist.

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by Hasbinlulz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree, they are equally as dummy as theists.

n0pe theists have more evidence

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Hasbinlulz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Atheism is NOT the lack of belief in a deity figure, no matter HOW modern atheists try and make it so. The lack of belief in a deity figure is far closer to agnosticism.

The simple roots of the word atheism, and historical usage of the word until the last decade or two is the denial of possibility of the existence of a deity.

The above is the definition by which I crucify (lol) atheism on the same cross with jesus.

Which point in time are you attempting to lock the word to? Original? 18th century? Recent? Modern? The original Greek simply means "without gods."

My views are probably closest to epistemological atheism, which is certainly similar to agnosticism.

[Hasbinlulz]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The validity of god. How is logic invalid? It's logical to believe that when turn a light on by it's switch that it will turn on unless the light bulb is burnt out. However, imo it's pretty easy whether or not to tell if there is or isn't a god simply by praying for the most unselfish thing possible. Religion in god was built as a control mechanism to get everyone to cooperate. The validity of god may not be fully testable in the "does he exist or doesn't he" But there is some major reasoning behind why he doesn't exist.

Your gradeschool conception of the possibility of a god needs to graduate bro. Go take some mushrooms and expand your mind.

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by Hasbinlulz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go take some mushrooms and expand your mind.

[Hasbinlulz]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which point in time are you attempting to lock the word to? Original? 18th century? Recent? Modern? The original Greek simply means "without gods."

My views are probably closest to epistemological atheism, which is certainly similar to agnosticism.

a- as a prefix means "without or against."
Atheist = "without or against the existence of god"

Now if you put that definition in perspective with the root theist, which descibes one who believes in god, the a- solidifies on the "against" or opposite (a-moral), rather than the "without" version of the definition (a-sexual).

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Hasbinlulz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your gradeschool conception of the possibility of a god needs to graduate bro. Go take some mushrooms and expand your mind.

It's actually grad school. If the conversation is getting too tough for you, you may as well bow out or look more like an idiot trying to insult someone whose actually trying to have a conversation. Do yourself a favor and grow up out of your pre-teen ways.

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Hasbinlulz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a- as a prefix means "without or against."
Atheist = "without or against the existence of god"

Now if you put that definition in perspective with the root theist, which descibes one who believes in god, the a- solidifies on the "against" or opposite (a-moral), rather than the "without" version of the definition (a-sexual).

The root is the Greek atheos, "without gods." It was an insult. Modern atheism has many forms and variations.

You are perpetuating a false dichotomy. I am not black to an atheist's white. My position is that the entire conversation is pointless noise with a contrived and baseless explanation for the unknown and, in some cases, unknowable.