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Old 03-24-2022, 01:36 AM
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Already got all that. I have a couple years worth of food storage. Growing up Mormon does that to you.
Some of my ammo has moret han quadrupled in value since the first obama term when I sold a bunch of popular ammo and bought a bunch of stuff that could still be had cheaply.

And all ammo has about doubled since Trump's race war years and has only barely come back down. It's not the best way to bury your money but it can't hurt.

There are no sure fire investments otherwise everyone would do it. When inflation is a real threat, hard assets of some kind are your best bet, so really a down payment on a house might be worthwhile but if the market tanks you will be feeling dumb so its a gamble.

Start a business.
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Old 03-24-2022, 02:39 AM
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Joel olstien does more to make people lives better than anyone who hates him by tenfold.
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Old 03-24-2022, 02:45 AM
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Already got all that. I have a couple years worth of food storage. Growing up Mormon does that to you.
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Old 03-24-2022, 03:21 AM
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Only reason to have an under house tunnel system is to booby trap it like Rambo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Christians don’t like Joel Olsteen because he doesn’t preach Christianity, but neither do most Christians so I guess he just has a bigger target on him because he rakes in the big bucks. Because he is so famous he provides a big face point at what is wrong with Christianity, which in fact is simply all the same things wrong with any other collection of humans.

So I guess he misrepresents the ideal but on such a large stage that a lot of people
feel the need to denounce him.

As far as his messages help people, that’s great. The things that open our eyes don’t have to be perfect things themselves. God uses whatever he can to wake us up.
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:05 AM
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Or to have an underground tunnel system???

I don’t know anything about Joel Osteen not teaching Christianity but he sure as hell teaches people how to live with their neighbors, how to keep sane and strong in a harsh world.

I mean it’s really hopeful stuff if you listen to him it’s hopeful he does not say anything that I disagree with not one thing that he says I think any of you would disagree with.

I can’t get mad at him for being a capitalist this is America and I sure as hell don’t have anything against capitalism.

The difference between him or say, Jobs or Elon or Mark Zuckerberg, Is that his job literally every day is to get out in front of people and to just reinforce that they are not alone that they have family but if they are good to each other if they’re good to their neighbors they’ll be good people and that goodness is good I mean really he has a strong positive message!

He gets a lot of hate because he’s a capitalist but meanwhile Democrats are the most capitalists loving psychopaths on the planet who will watch 10,000 hours of a TikTokerwho spreads 10 million hours of the most negative most toxic shit possible.
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:12 AM
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Also fwiw: If all the things wrong with religion are the one thing that make America strong: capitalism. Then that’s saying something pretty profound in my opinion.
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:21 AM
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Joel Osteen is a good dude. When my wife was going through some major depression issues, he was really helpful in getting her to see the positive side of life.

I know a lot of Christians accuse him of preaching the “prosperity gospel” but frankly, I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. I have met too many Christians, especially when I lived in the south, who were content with being fat and poor because the opposite of those was vanity.

Joel often talks about how you can’t help anyone else if you are fat, sick or broke. I agree with that statement.

Joel does have a lot of money, but I think he does more to help people than most other millionaires. He does not come off as a pretentious fellow, though I do think his wife does.
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Maybe we should start an Osteen thread its interesting to me to see that he has impacted even my fellow EQ EMU players.
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I just put him on a few times to see what all the hype/hate was about (or test how much of a boomer I've become) and after watching as much of it as I could possibly stand I was pretty much shocked at how literally everything he said was the most moral and thoughtful and empathetic way you could approach pretty much every situation in a persons life who regularly shops at dollar tree.

Rich or greedy, he does help people who need it in a positive and effective way IMO.

Too often have I seen the people who need help forgotten about after the hype train is ended with my empathetic progressive allies.
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My problem with Osteen, is basically two things: prosperity theology is downright evil and blasphemous. And my wife has a crush on him, so unless he dies soon in a helicopter crash I may have to fight him.

I thought this pair of episodes on the history of the deliberate effort to entangle Christianity with pro-capitalist/anti-socialist ideology were good.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-b...-ate-93526364/

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-b...-ate-93635278/
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