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Old 10-31-2014, 03:51 PM
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False. You really should leave the discussion if you can't see what the GM's have said in raid discussion.
False. everything you say is false.

GMs haven't said anything, that was deru with another maybe post that is vague.

the players of the server come up with the terms and if everyone agrees they will make the changes. its only you that is holding it back.

FFA repop is workable. and stops 99% of everything that is the issue..
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:53 PM
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False. everything you say is false.

GMs haven't said anything, that was deru with another maybe post that is vague.

the players of the server come up with the terms and if everyone agrees they will make the changes. its only you that is holding it back.

FFA repop is workable. and stops 99% of everything that is the issue..
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:53 PM
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False. everything you say is false.

GMs haven't said anything, that was deru with another maybe post that is vague.

the players of the server come up with the terms and if everyone agrees they will make the changes. its only you that is holding it back.

FFA repop is workable. and stops 99% of everything that is the issue..
Uhm, NO it was SIRKEN and it wasn't a maybe. Again learn to read.
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:55 PM
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Or if you guys don't want to play on a server where you, quite literally, have to be socially responsible for and toward other guild's to facilitate their fun, you can try out Red99 and not deal with any of that.

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Old 10-31-2014, 03:56 PM
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For a couple of reasons, and I'll keep it brief because I believe that the true Wall-of-Text hero here is Daldaen and I don't want to take a shot at his crown.

1) Removing FFA completely destroys the avenue in which Class-R CAN compete for mobs against Class-C if they wish. If they wish to abstain from the toxic shitshow that you believe co-mingling with Class-C causes, they can.

Contrary to popular belief, there have only been a couple incidents that have gone to GMs due to FFA situations - the SevGate FTE fuck by Taken and the ridiculous attempt of a petition against TMO by Taken most recently.

2) Why are we being asked to concede more mobs when we already did so (to a significant extent) during the original raid change agreement? We're not the ones unhappy with FFA and we're not asking for more mobs.

3) It really seems to me that the real issue here isn't being addressed and it's being covered up by bullshit. I think the real problem is that the rotations are getting longer and longer because more guilds are joining that rotation you've got going and Class-R mouths are hungry. In honestly, there doesn't need to be 13 Class-R guilds. Consider consolidating.
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:02 PM
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Contrary to popular belief, there have only been a couple incidents that have gone to GMs due to FFA situations - the SevGate FTE fuck by Taken and the ridiculous attempt of a petition against TMO by Taken most recently.
what proof do you have that Taken did any of this? wheres the screenshots? wheres the logs? wheres the screenshots of the logs with fraps of the screenshots happening with the locs??

again.. TMO causes the issues and blames a Class R guild who is trying to be competitive. becouse they almost lost some % of the pie!

still no reason for no FFA repops. doesn't matter what sirken said a week ago before this was even really discussed.

give a reason why it wouldn't work out better for the server? smaller guilds dont get FFA mobs as it is, but they would have a chance at picking targets class C wont go for first at the last second decision
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Old 10-31-2014, 11:52 PM
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For a couple of reasons, and I'll keep it brief because I believe that the true Wall-of-Text hero here is Daldaen and I don't want to take a shot at his crown.

1) Removing FFA completely destroys the avenue in which Class-R CAN compete for mobs against Class-C if they wish. If they wish to abstain from the toxic shitshow that you believe co-mingling with Class-C causes, they can.

Contrary to popular belief, there have only been a couple incidents that have gone to GMs due to FFA situations - the SevGate FTE fuck by Taken and the ridiculous attempt of a petition against TMO by Taken most recently.

2) Why are we being asked to concede more mobs when we already did so (to a significant extent) during the original raid change agreement? We're not the ones unhappy with FFA and we're not asking for more mobs.

3) It really seems to me that the real issue here isn't being addressed and it's being covered up by bullshit. I think the real problem is that the rotations are getting longer and longer because more guilds are joining that rotation you've got going and Class-R mouths are hungry. In honestly, there doesn't need to be 13 Class-R guilds. Consider consolidating.
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what proof do you have that Taken did any of this? wheres the screenshots? wheres the logs? wheres the screenshots of the logs with fraps of the screenshots happening with the locs??

again.. TMO causes the issues and blames a Class R guild who is trying to be competitive. becouse they almost lost some % of the pie!

still no reason for no FFA repops. doesn't matter what sirken said a week ago before this was even really discussed.

give a reason why it wouldn't work out better for the server? smaller guilds dont get FFA mobs as it is, but they would have a chance at picking targets class C wont go for first at the last second decision
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The reasons beyond what Sirken said are that C/R FFA repop takes a % away from C's pie

This isn't rocket surgery folks

They don't want to give up a %, and nor should they
R doesn't want to give up a %, and nor should they

Keep the %'s identical to how it is now and figure out a system, fuck
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:57 PM
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Keep the %'s identical to how it is now and figure out a system, fuck
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:05 PM
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The reasons beyond what Sirken said are that C/R FFA repop takes a % away from C's pie

This isn't rocket surgery folks

They don't want to give up a %, and nor should they
R doesn't want to give up a %, and nor should they

Keep the %'s identical to how it is now and figure out a system, fuck
Exactly. The part where Sirken says...

"The idea was never to "take away" from Class C so much as it was to try and allow more non Class C players to experience raid content, as well as a stepping stone to join Class C when ready."

To me this is what changing to foot races helps as well. Everyone can see how the raiding in Class C occurs by experiencing it...but on a smaller scale with a few more restrictions to curb the majority of socking. Trust me if you get really good at foot racing in FFA. You can compete for anything in Class C currently and it's pretty dang fun when you get experienced at it.
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